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Spanish Galleon 1607 , LEE(IMAI) 1:100

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Posted by steve5 on Wednesday, November 30, 2016 3:02 AM

kirill

 you are far and away the best ship modeller on this forum mate . I just love your attention to detail .

 

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Posted by rwiederrich on Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:08 AM

Kirill..Fantastic...and I struggled to find any other word to describe your skillful labors.

What a pleasure to watch.

Rob

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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:32 AM

We are lucky to have several of the best modelers I have ever seen on this thread!  Kirill, Rob, and Dave are doing incredible work!  Gentlemen, It is refreshing to learn from the likes of you!

Bill Morrison

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Posted by kirill4 on Friday, December 02, 2016 4:58 PM

Dear friends,

Thanks a lot for all your postive comments! I m very glad that you found this building interesting...and try to continue...

 

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Posted by David_K on Friday, December 02, 2016 5:05 PM

Hi Kirill-

Forgive me if you've already discussed it, but can you tell us a little about your painting techniques (types of paint/finish, and methods of application)...and also, where do you get your rigging line?

Thanks!

Dave

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Posted by rwiederrich on Friday, December 02, 2016 6:14 PM

Good questions Dave...I was about to ask the same...Stick out tongue

Rob

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  • From: Russia, St.Peterburg
Posted by kirill4 on Friday, December 02, 2016 6:20 PM

Hi Dave,Rob,

I started to assemble this model long time ago...9 years almost...process moving veryvery slowly due to my working schedule...3-4  months in year have time to work with it...

in the begining I knew almost nothing abt models painting and various painting techniques but had only idea how it should looks like...like...kind of old wooden classic model of sailing vessel... Big Smile

but how to reach this effect???,I had no idea...but saw only that modellers sometimes reached very interesting results...it was a long story when I try to found most effective,easy and fast metod wich will suit me- give fast wooden and kind of aging effect / which will transform plastic to wood

oil artistic paints I discarded because of long drying period,I wanted smthng much faster...

finaly I found info abt using artistic dry pastels...I understood ,that model need to be painted first in base color,and after need to be finish colored ,in purpose to reach wooden effect by using powder made from artistic dry pastels of suitable range of color -for that, pastel powder need to be mixed with pure water,drop(drop! veryvery small :))) of dish washing detergent and spirit could be added for more fast drying... proportion of components ,exept drop of detergent,you can found experimentally,could be more or less concentrated,doesn't matter...here Im talking abt approx 50 ml of mixture...than this mixture need to be applied on  base color by brush or cotton stick and left for total drying...when it became dry, you can use wet brush or again, cotton cosmetic stick to remore excessive pastel mix ,part of it will remain clued to paint and this making kind of wooden effect...as soon as results will suit you, work need to be fixed with matt,deep matt varnish...if you didn't like result,everyting could be easily removed by water and try again...of cause,before matt varnish been applied... that what I knew from internet and try to do...

result of this first experiments ,9 years old, :))) you can see on my model hull painting...here I used ordinary acrylic spray paint ,sand color,from nearest supermarket, as base...than children artists ordinary acrylic paint free red-brownish mixed color was applied by brush,than pastel mix for wooden effect and later on partually removed by wet brush...and finaly everything fixed by matt acrylic warnish...

 

 

here, started from post #70 , You can see how I use this dry pastel when I painted ship bell 

http://karopka.ru/forum/forum190/topic10341/?PAGEN_1=4

this is part 1 :))) all abt I knew how to use dry pastel

part 2

much later on I found paints with aging and wooden effect ... they are much easy in use , fast drying, make good appearance on surfaces - I like them a lot !!!

This are Folk Arts paint - You can see them (bottles with paits Nos which You can use for ordering) on pictures .

Here are some pictures where I used this new method of aging and woodening :)))

 

Dave,

for my rigging I used ordinary sweing threads maker Gutermann, brend name -TERA - this is the only type we need, there are a lot of other kind of Gutermann ,but we need TERA due to they don't have "hair" on the thread surface  

http://legus39.ru/products.php?category_id=30

I used this maker Nos 

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I paint them before installation and sometimes after - repaint/refresh damaged colored areas...

For painting I use acrylic paints of suitable color and aging them a little by FolkArts stain N0817

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  • From: Streetsboro, Ohio
Posted by Toshi on Sunday, December 04, 2016 11:06 AM

I am flabbergasted by your work here sir!  I'm speechless!

Toshi

On The Bench: Revell 1/48 B-25 Mitchell

 

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, December 05, 2016 4:06 PM

Agreed. This is masterful work. 

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Posted by fright on Monday, December 05, 2016 4:16 PM

Love this! Your attention to detail on your lines are incredible. Hat off to to your skills with your model. Thanks for posting and sharing this! 

Robert O

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  • From: Russia, St.Peterburg
Posted by kirill4 on Tuesday, December 06, 2016 7:36 AM

Dear friends,

Thankyou very much !!!

continue with Main mast sails rigging...

presently busy with this plan

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Posted by rwiederrich on Tuesday, December 06, 2016 9:08 AM

Several questions....do you make your own line? and do you paint it or treat it to make it look so authentic?  What adhesive do you use on your rope coils?

 

Rob

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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Tuesday, December 06, 2016 9:52 AM

Kirill,

Simply stunning work!  I am also interested in the answers to Rob's questions.

Bill Morrison

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  • From: Russia, St.Peterburg
Posted by kirill4 on Tuesday, December 06, 2016 2:29 PM

Rob,Bill 

threads which I use - just above in previous my post , answering to Dave I gave all information - this is just ordinary sewing thread , maker Gutermann, type TERA - No's in my previous post.

I made only fore,main and mizzen stays in rope making machine due to their specific cable laid type.

Before using I paint them by artist acrylic paint( free color -mix of yellow ochre,brown,black etc.- all from various "earth " colors, you can mix it by your own taste) mixed with matt acrylic warnish.

More yellowish for running rigging and more dark(more black and brown) - for standing rigging

Piece of thread I pull trough some small cotton rag wetted by this paint mix, and use them when it became dry.

Just before use prepaired\colored thread on model, each piece of thread need to be stretched with resonable force by hand - such trick make thread even\steady

for forming rope coil I use pva - water soluble glue( first forming coil on some suitable metal round stick and than use hair dryer to make drying process faster)

for fixing preformed coil at place I use ca gel , same ca gel I use for fixing running lines when passing through blocks...

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  • From: Russia, St.Peterburg
Posted by kirill4 on Friday, December 09, 2016 2:38 PM

Good day,

Dear friends, thank you very much for your attention to my project,

today had some small progress- buntlines installation completed

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Posted by steve5 on Friday, December 09, 2016 2:43 PM

I'd be a very proud man , if I could do work like that kirill .

steve5

 

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Posted by cerberusjf on Friday, December 09, 2016 6:04 PM

Really excellent work Kirill4, and thanks very much for sharing your tips!

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  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Friday, December 09, 2016 6:31 PM

Until you began to post pictures in this thread in FineScale I had thought that I'd already seen the most beautiful model of the IMAI 1/100 Spanish Galleon that could be built. That was here:

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wettringer-modellbauforum.de%2Fforum%2Findex.php%3Fpage%3DThread%26threadID%3D30112%26pageNo%3D1%26s%3Dfee24de8398e4e952b21d806d0bcd73fddd03bc5

I now know that I'm looking at another modeler with at least equal if not greater skills and committment than the person's model for which I inserted the above link.

The problem with your model and the one to which I've linked above is that it's very unlikely that I'll ever attempt to build the one I have in my stash since I'd be comparing every detail I was able to do with two benchmarks that are so far out of my league that it would be a bit depressing Smile.

However, just to view your work is certainly an inspiration and motivation to try my best with whatever kit I'm working on. Thanks for taking the time to post all the wonderful pictures and thanks for giving me the impetus to try harder at building my ship kits.

 

 

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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  • From: Russia, St.Peterburg
Posted by kirill4 on Saturday, December 10, 2016 2:58 AM

Mike,

You don't belive, but that link You refer above ... was( when I found it almost 9 years ago)...and is, till present moment, my favorite one!!! :))).

In the begining of my building this model, I was under impression of how plastic model could be built ,lets say,couple of years...with lot of questions...how it possible to do this ,or that!!!???(the propblem was, with site language,which I don't know at all and my weak computer skills ,I didn't know how to translate text with author's explanation.) ...but I copied all pictures this modeller posted and study them carefully...later on I found the ways,how to paint plastic to make it looks like wood(how far close - it is limited by my taste and my skills of couse:)),how to make sails and rigging ,at least I learned that in this scale it must be as much detailed as possible,if not reproducing the same techique in details for some reasons...

later on I found another model built on very high level, which imressed me a lot! :)))  and gave me good " push" to build my own model and try to follow learned lessons:)))

http://www.dishmodels.ru/gshow.htm?p=6549

Francly speaking, most intensive and interesting stage of building this model ,for me personaly, was the period when I study rigging(reading Anderson book mostly) and try to develop my own galleon rigging version as far as I was able to understand Anderson book...at present stage,when need just to complete building,it is much less exiting:))) due to hundreds repeated simple manipulations which need to be done ,but couldn't be avoided...

There is link to one more modeler ,which style I like very much, here He gives detailed explanation abt various techniques of rigging and other interesting modeling aspects... hope it will be interesting ...

https://www.shipmodeling.ru/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=71037

I would like to Thanks You and other our colleques of this site for your attention to my project and very positive comments which no doubt give very good and effectipe stimul to continue to work with my model !!! :)))... and I 'm glad you find it interesting.

Thanks a lot!

Kirill

 

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Posted by Andy B. on Monday, December 12, 2016 11:00 AM

This is simply amazing!! I can not ever hope to achieve this standard, but it`s so good just admiring your work.

Brilliant...... Andy

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Posted by 1943Mike on Monday, December 12, 2016 11:39 PM

Kirill, 

It's interesting that your last link was that of Dmitry Shevelev. When I look at my kit of the Le Glorieux (1/150 Heller) I think of his work on the French 74 gun ship and am absolutely astounded at his skill. But, that's for another day. 

http://shipsofscale.com/gallery/dshevelev/french74/index.html

Your work is most interesting to me since you're generous with sharing your techniques and methods for working on your model and because you have such talent for executing the work.

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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  • From: Russia, St.Peterburg
Posted by kirill4 on Sunday, December 18, 2016 2:35 PM

Dear friends,

Thank all of you so much for your attention to my project and your warm comments!

there are some more pictures abt main mast top sail rigging... continue will be in june 2017.

Wish all of you Happy New Year 2017!

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  • From: Russia, St.Peterburg
Posted by kirill4 on Monday, June 26, 2017 7:01 PM

Good day,

Dear Friends,

last few days, there is some very small progress in my " building"

Grot mast still not completed...due to spesific galleon rigging, first need to arrange mizzen stay at least, than I will be able to manage completion main topgallant sail rigging - it's tie and halliard,which need to be attached to the mizzen stay...and continue with mizzen mast rigging..

there was wrong positioning of kit's mizzen halliard knight- it must be placed in front of mizzen mast, but not at the mizzen mast sbs as kit maker suggested

this was corrected...new knight fabricated from telephone plastic cards...and placed at the corrrct position...than there were some more small rearangements which I did before mizzen mast installation - added imitation of wooden  plate with ring bolt for mizzen tack, made upper mizzen tie halliard block with ness-ry rigging

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Posted by docidle on Sunday, July 02, 2017 1:40 AM

Kirill, 

I think I am going to give up modeling after reacquainting myself with your spectacular work.........

Actually, your work inspires me to no end. Please keep posting!

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by steve5 on Sunday, July 02, 2017 4:04 AM

I'm with you steve , every time I think I'm getting better kirill does something and I go into hybernation again , love your work kirill .

steve5

 

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Posted by warshipguy on Sunday, July 02, 2017 7:37 AM

Kirill,

Once again, I am most impressed by your work!  I have always loved sailing ships, and have built beautiful ships as well, but I have learned so much from following your posts.  There seems to be a plethora of very skilled builders here, all of whom I greatly admire. You are in that austere group.

Bill Morrison

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  • From: providence ,r.i.
Posted by templar1099 on Sunday, July 02, 2017 5:31 PM

I think you're in the wrong line of work.

"le plaisir delicieux et toujours nouveau d'une occupation inutile"

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  • From: Russia, St.Peterburg
Posted by kirill4 on Thursday, July 06, 2017 4:54 PM

Good day,

Steve and Steve,Bill, templar1099,

Thank you very much for your attention to my slowly building :)

meanwhile have some progress in mizzen mast rigging - rigged mizzen tie/knight, temporary without mizzen spar and sail,will do it later on and rigged mizzem mast tackles - did couple of them...

nearest plan is to make carton patterns for rigging mizzen shrouds and as soon as shrouds will be done, mizzen stay could be fitted

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Posted by steve5 on Thursday, July 06, 2017 6:24 PM

I could watch your work all day kirill ., could you tell me where you got that incredible rigging plan you have in the back ground , and do they have plans of other ship's

steve5

 

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  • From: Russia, St.Peterburg
Posted by kirill4 on Friday, July 07, 2017 1:53 AM

Good Day Steve,

Thank You very much for your attention to my project and comments  :)))

The galleon rigging plan, which You mentioned ,it is my own design :)... I made it based on info from Anderson's book " the rigging of ships in the days of thespritsail topmast,1600-1720"...also I used info from Peter Kirsch book "The galleon", where I found a lot of interesting information abt galleon construction and great reconstruction of english galleon rigging as well...

There are many contemporary drwngs of the galleon of 16-17 centures which still exixts and where we can find many interesting details abt rigging and compare what we see with that Anderson wrote abt :)))

here You can find many galleon's pictures ...I try to collect them in one place for easy refrence...

http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/t5753f763-galleons-pictures-spanish-dutch-english-begining-of-century-famous-dutch-artists.html

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