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Moebius Seaview 1:350 scale WIP

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, November 10, 2017 9:17 AM

What Possesses...

me to do this. That was 2 hours of hair raising surgery.

The operation had its complications. As you might imagine, I had to drill out the light ports that lead to the channels that I cut. For some reason... and on one of them, the drill went on an angle. This made it hard to get the channel and boring to meet. Also--the drill went through the other side of the piece some. Fortunately, not in an area that has any detail. It should be easy to fix.

I believe that I can call this surgery a success. Post op will obviously require some major plastic surgery. Filling is still a work in process for me. Hopefully, I can do some justice to the piece.

Before I fill though... I need to test the filaments with the lens that goes into those ports. Basically, position/test things for maximum light output. 

 

 

 

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Posted by steve5 on Friday, November 10, 2017 3:32 PM

nice work steve ,

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, November 10, 2017 5:31 PM

steve5

nice work steve ,

 

Thanks Steve.

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Friday, November 10, 2017 7:07 PM

 You have no idea how many fingernail's I "chewed" off, waiting to see if that would work!

Nice save !

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Friday, November 10, 2017 7:13 PM

 ALSO:  Before you fill in the gap, test the glue, putty, or whatever else you are going to use. Fiber optic may have a reaction to these (Melting.)

Make sure it work's the first time. Once you fill the gap there is "NO WAY" to make repair's a few year's down the road. ( Unless you have a hammer handy..... I use that "Remedy" all the time!)

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, November 10, 2017 8:57 PM

littletimmy

 You have no idea how many fingernail's I "chewed" off, waiting to see if that would work!

Nice save !

 

 

Laughing... Thanks for caring and thanks for the kudos!  Yeah... it was precarious. There are some areas where the wall of the cuts are very very thin. I will need to deal with stray light coming from the length of the optic. I will try black paint.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, November 10, 2017 8:58 PM

littletimmy

 ALSO:  Before you fill in the gap, test the glue, putty, or whatever else you are going to use. Fiber optic may have a reaction to these (Melting.)

Make sure it work's the first time. Once you fill the gap there is "NO WAY" to make repair's a few year's down the road. ( Unless you have a hammer handy..... I use that "Remedy" all the time!)

 

Very good advice.  I will do this. The instructions say that epoxy is ok but I will test it anyway.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, November 10, 2017 9:04 PM

Here is a teaser. The bezels are temporarily installed, the optics crudely positioned and lit.  

 

Maybe I should color them red and add a sticker, I brake for dolphins.

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Friday, November 10, 2017 9:21 PM

Bakster
I will need to deal with stray light coming from the length of the optic. I will try black paint.

If you are painting the fiber optic itself, I would paint it silver first. Then Black

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, November 10, 2017 9:24 PM

littletimmy

 

 
Bakster
I will need to deal with stray light coming from the length of the optic. I will try black paint.

 

If you are painting the fiber optic itself, I would paint it silver first. Then Black

 

Oh really. Why? Reflect the light back into the fiber?

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Friday, November 10, 2017 9:25 PM

Bakster
Maybe I should color them red and add a sticker, I brake for dolphins.

Let's go with something from the 80's.......   Remember those Yellow sign's , "baby on board" ?

X-wife in torpedo tube!

Or a "Spaceball's" salute.... WE BRAKE FOR NOBODY!

( Do subs even HAVE brake's ? )

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Friday, November 10, 2017 9:27 PM

Bakster
Oh really. Why? Reflect the light back into the fiber?

Yes. and it help's "intensify" the  light . It will be a little bit brighter.  

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, November 10, 2017 9:28 PM

littletimmy
X-wife in torpedo tube!

I like this best.Zip it!

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, November 10, 2017 9:29 PM

littletimmy

 

 
Bakster
Oh really. Why? Reflect the light back into the fiber?

 

Yes. and it help's "intensify" the  light . It will be a little bit brighter.  

 

Excellent! I will do that!

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Friday, November 10, 2017 9:38 PM

Bakster
Excellent! I will do that!

You have taken my advice and used it without question. What's wrong with you???   LOL

I cant even get the dog to listen to me!

From now on, all suggestions must first be filled out ... IN TRIPLICATE..... with the "glue fiend" standing in the corner with the tye-dyed shirt and silly grin.

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, November 10, 2017 10:28 PM

littletimmy
You have taken my advice and used it without question.

I was just being nice. Wasn't gonna actually follow it. Yes

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Friday, November 10, 2017 10:32 PM

                      H A !!!!!!!!

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, November 10, 2017 10:39 PM

littletimmy

                      H A !!!!!!!!

 

Egads man. I suppose you are pining for another Seaview cartoon episode.

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Friday, November 10, 2017 10:53 PM

Bakster
Egads man. I suppose you are pining for another Seaview cartoon episode.

Dont toy with my emotion's man!  I'm in a "fragile" state.....  I could start gluing stuff at ANY moment!

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Friday, November 10, 2017 11:24 PM

littletimmy

 

 
Bakster
Egads man. I suppose you are pining for another Seaview cartoon episode.

 

Dont toy with my emotion's man!  I'm in a "fragile" state.....  I could start gluing stuff at ANY moment!

 

Oh--MAN!!! I thought so. (Rolling my eyes). FINE! I'll talk to the writer (me), and the producer (me), and see what they say. They are a cantankerous bunch. Just the thought of talking to them makes me irritable. I can usually settle them down with a shot of whiskey you know. I am sure I have some here somewhere. 

So you hold you horses there Timmy, and watch the master negotiator go to work fer ya. My customers don't call me sloth fer nothin.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, November 12, 2017 9:39 AM

News feed to Timmy: The board of directors (me myself and I) approved the release of Episode 2.

Aside from that... I am working on the fiber optics. I may have an update later today.

 

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  • From: Parsons Kansas
Posted by Hodakamax on Sunday, November 12, 2017 10:22 AM

Hey, I forgot to mention that I use color marking pens such as Sharpies on aircraft clear parts for red an green lights. Something you might experiment with.

Max

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, November 12, 2017 11:26 AM

Hodakamax

Hey, I forgot to mention that I use color marking pens such as Sharpies on aircraft clear parts for red an green lights. Something you might experiment with.

Max

 

Hmm... I didn't think of trying that, Max. Your timing on this is impeccable. I was just in the midst of doing an update on this same subject.  

So... I look out my window this morning and I see a package for me on the stoop. "YES! It came much earlier than expected." I open it up, and, this... IS IT! 

Remember my earlier post where I used the 3D glasses as a filter to sandwich between the LED and the Fiber Optic filament? That worked really really well, but, there was a problem. I need a green filter for the other light, and, the glasses are red and blue. I tried using cellophane from Michaels and that was too transparent. I searched the internet and man... this was tough. I found a place that I could order 3D glasses that are red and green, but, it's a 50 piece min at $20. Sorry, not doing that.

Finally, I come across something that is used for theatre lighting. It is a gel film that goes over theatre lights to add mood. Well, they have the colors that I need. I didn't know anything about this stuff and in some of the images of it, it looked like cloth. The prospect of it being a cloth didn't excite me too much. But, for the price, I figured, what the heck. It turns out this is not a cloth material, but, it is exactly like the 3D glasses. Only, it is better. Bingo! Now I can build the light canister.

I tested the green film and it looks great. Below is a link to the stuff. It can be purchased from various places.

 

PS: The film comes with a paper backing layer that pulls away. It's the paper that made the film look like cloth. Son of a... 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/American-DJ-CGS-7-Gel-Pack-A-/292267813220?rsta=en_US(en_US)&cnac=US&mail=sys&e=op&unp_tpcid=xpt-auction-GXOTx&ppid=PPX000605&calf=435b3cfabbc2&calc=435b3cfabbc2&pgrp=main:email&unptid=7bab4a24-c4ee-11e7-9211-5cb90192cbb0&mchn=em&t=&s=ci&page=main:email&cal=435b3cfabbc2&cust=4JS34896KK902411A

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, November 12, 2017 6:29 PM

I approve of this thread.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, November 12, 2017 10:02 PM

CapnMac82

I approve of this thread.

 

Thanks Capn. That made me smile. I like to smile. It is a welcome break from being irritable. Indifferent 

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  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 9:27 PM

Bakster
It is a welcome break from being irritable.

I find that if I just stop sitting on the sandpaper....... the "irritation" goes away.

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, November 15, 2017 9:44 PM

Genesis of an LED Light Engine

This has been an interesting journey. Serendipity played into this design more than once.

Below: These are called LED holders, and they are designed to secure LEDs to a panel. I used them differently.

  

Below: Using clear styrene, I cut out two circular pieces that will fit into the recess of the holder. I dunked each color chip into PFC, positioned them on the bottom disk, applied the top disk over them, and then dunked the entire disk assembly. The latter sealed and set the whole deal. Later, when dry, I cut the excess film off. Having the excess film really aided in positioning them. Also, they acted as a handle during the drying process. Lastly--using the PFC worked out really well. It helped in positioning the color chips, in sealing the piece, and, it helped with clarity.

Side note: I underexposed the images below so that more detail will show. Otherwise, you'd see bright blurry blobs. The light is pretty bright.

Below: I made this insert out of Evergreen styrene. The filaments are to be inserted into the holes that are positioned over the color chip, and or, clear area. Using the insert allows an unobstructed path directly to those locations, and, it provides a solid anchor to hold and manage the stresses imposed by the filaments. I will epoxy the filaments and paint the entire piece once when I actually hook them up.

Below: The filaments in this photo are just for testing. The actual lengths will be longer--of course.

Overall--this went pretty dang well.

 

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Wednesday, November 15, 2017 9:45 PM

I have a different sort of "cure" for irritation.

See, there's a stump out back.  Several stumps, actually.  First ones responded well to being drilled with an auger repeatedly--to recieve a dose of epsom salts and kerosene.

Until the last one.  One hole bored in, just cranky.  Second boring was unpleasant, clearly hitting foul grain in the burl.  Until the augur locked up tight.  Not a degree more in or out.

Now, this is a decent auger, a 7/8" Greenfield a bit past its prime--no longer suitable for electrical work let alone boatwright work.  Nut, no junker, either.

Sailor language was invoked.  In several, satisfiying, languages.  Auger was deaf to this as a the stump was.

A splitting wedge was introduced to the problem stump.  A quite satisfatory split found part of the auger--just not enough to free it.

Life, as it does, interrupted this evolution.  So, all things were oiled and covered with an oilcloth.

As time permits a 12# sledge is introduced to the wedge to induce it to move another millimeter or twain.  This can be quite satisfying, as precision is required to not strie the auger, but to thoroughly strike the wedge,

There's now another, skinny, wedgeon the opposing side of this evolution, which is best addressed withe a 4# hand sledge and a drift bar.

Either exercise does get a person out of the house for a while, before time and tide require retiring indoors again.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, November 15, 2017 9:49 PM

That sounds like a good plan Capn. Yes There is nothing like exercise to rid the body of agravation. 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, November 15, 2017 9:58 PM

littletimmy

 

 
Bakster
It is a welcome break from being irritable.

 

I find that if I just stop sitting on the sandpaper....... the "irritation" goes away.

 

Maybe it's the John Wayne TP causing the irritation.

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