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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, September 02, 2017 9:15 PM

 finally got some wood colour on the outer hull , I think it look's ok , any comment's welcome. 

michael , is blue and white the correct colour scheme for the hull top , or will any colour do .

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Posted by Bakster on Saturday, September 02, 2017 10:37 PM

Hey Steve, I really love that wood look that you made. How did you do it? Can you share?

Where were you when I needed you on my Mayflower build? Lol. I really like that look.

 

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, September 02, 2017 11:53 PM

thank's steve , I tried to follow davidk's method , a white primer , I couldn't get MM tan , so I used tamiya's xf-78 wooden deck tan , a coat of gloss , and then a layer of burnt umber oil wash with white spirit , I would like to have a go with a yellowish primer , to try and get that oak look , trying to decide whether to give it a dull coat or a semi gloss , thought's ?!! , the effect's you did on your mayflower , I could never achieve , LOL .

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, September 03, 2017 9:53 AM

steve5
trying to decide whether to give it a dull coat or a semi gloss , thought's ?!!

Hey Steve, I think either should work. I always lean towards a drier look for wood. That is my personal preference. I guess it depends on what you are trying to emulate. Newer wood? Older wood? Painted wood? Oiled wood? Based on the pictures though, it looks perfect to me already. Or are you seeing something different? I know how cameras skew things. From my experience, adding clear or dull coat alters the subtle nuances of the underlying paint work. I try to avoid using it if I can. Whatever you choose, it should be fine! We are our own worst critics.

That is my novice two cents, for what it is worth. I love what you are doing. Keep up the good work....

 

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Posted by Michael D. on Sunday, September 03, 2017 10:29 AM

That looks great Steve!. As far as the colors I chose I doubt it.  I used my own artistic license and they contrast with the wood nicely..to me anyway.

 

Michael D

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  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Sunday, September 03, 2017 12:37 PM

Steve,

The paint job looks good. (You can't go wrong following David K's methods for the wood look Smile). You've done a commendable job using that technique.

Can't help you with the question regarding blue and white colors for the hull top. I'm sure someone will jump in with some answers.

 

 

Mike

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Hector Berlioz

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Posted by steve5 on Wednesday, September 06, 2017 12:38 AM

baxter , michael .

I forgot to mention the reason I wanted to semi gloss or dull coat , I'm worried the masking tape , when I paint , might rip up some of my weathering , or am I worrying for nothing . 

steve5

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Posted by Michael D. on Wednesday, September 06, 2017 7:39 AM

Steve spraying dull coat over an existing coating that lacks proper adhesion will not keep it from peeling off, in your case since you used a base coat of primer and oil based paint for the weathering you'll have no worries.

I used dull coat spray over acrylic on my build just for the sheen I was after.

 

Michael D.

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  • From: San Diego
Posted by jgonzales on Wednesday, September 06, 2017 9:36 AM

Hello all,

 

Here are a couple of useful links regarding victory's original appearance as launched.

First, Donald McNarry, master model builder, built the following model of her in Admiralty style - no rigging, just the hull.

http://www.shipmodel.com/models/victory-admiralty-style 

Next is a painting by Swaine:

  

Hope you find this helpful!

Jose

Jose Gonzales San Diego, CA
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Posted by steve5 on Wednesday, September 06, 2017 2:39 PM

thank's for the assurance michael 

jgonzales , I have seen the model before , the painting is interesting , shows the yards are all black , thank's mate .

steve

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  • From: Marysville, WA
Posted by David_K on Friday, September 08, 2017 12:15 PM

Looks terrific, Steve!

I'm continually impressed by your ambition and skill....I'll be watching this build and taking notes for the day when I decide to start my Victory kit!

Great work so far :)

Dave

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Posted by steve5 on Friday, September 08, 2017 4:25 PM

cheer's dave , I think we are all waiting for you to do the victory mate . I just hope my ambition , doesn't out weigh my ability LOL .

steve

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Posted by Marcus McBean on Friday, September 08, 2017 4:46 PM

She sure doesn't look like that now.  Thanks for the pictures.

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Posted by steve5 on Friday, September 08, 2017 11:51 PM

that's a fact marcus , got some paint on the bottom half of the hull ,.

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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Saturday, September 09, 2017 5:07 AM

How did I miss this thread?  I have been intrigued by such a conversion for years but never felt comfortable doing so.  I will follow this thread religiously!

Bill Morrison

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, September 09, 2017 5:43 AM

thank's bill , I wanted to do this build after seeing michael d's beautiful build on pete coleman's site , I can tell you now mine will not be as good as his , for one I have been copying his effort , I am still trying to figure out how to do the bow figure's which he carved  . { I am no sculpter }  but as you can see , he has been helping me no end , along with dafi , it has been really enjoyable so far learning new skill's . it's like when I did the robert e lee build , and T.B. helped me improve it , that's what's so good about this forum , the help and education you get .

steve5

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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Saturday, September 09, 2017 7:39 AM

Steve,

I have two of the Heller kits. One could be for experimentation.  I also have two of the 1/100 Mantua wood kits that I could use for scratchbuilding new features for the Victory.  You are inspiring me to delve into such a project.

Bill

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  • From: Tempe AZ
Posted by docidle on Saturday, September 09, 2017 11:48 AM

Steve,

Great work so far! Your wood looks great so if you're happy with it then move on. 

In the future, if you want a bit more Yellow to your wood effect, you might try using Tamiya's Dark Yellow as a base. I then use at least three to five colors of artist oils to get the depth and tones I want. I also do all the painting of acrylics before I apply my oils so that all the colors juxtapose. I only put a dull coat on after I'm done. I apply oils right on top of the acrylics and mixed them on the model itself.

I can't tell you to look at my old wips since the PhotoBucket debacle wiped out the pictures, and I've decided that I'm not going to do or post anymore wips.

Just my two cents. As I said, your Victory is looking great.

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by Michael D. on Saturday, September 09, 2017 2:16 PM

Steve you're making good progress and it does look really good mate!. As far as one's work being better than someone elses is all subjective. My little secret for the sculptures is sculpy oven bake clay, shaping them individually with needles and small spatulas on aluminum foil before baking. Cheers.

Michael D.

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, September 09, 2017 3:46 PM

bill

it would be great to have you along for the ride , we could inspire each other mate LOL

steve

thank's for the tip , when I mentioned the yellow , it was more of a mental reminder note to myself .yes I am happy with the way the wood turned out , but the tip about dark yellow , sound's good for next time amigo .

michael

I hope your still around when i start doing the figure's , I'm going to need some help LOL

steve

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Posted by Michael D. on Saturday, September 09, 2017 7:04 PM

No problem Steve. I'm already thinking about Victory 1737 conversion so I'll be around for awhile..lol

 

Michael D

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, September 09, 2017 11:48 PM

is that the ship , that was wrecked in a wild storm , can't wait to see that one .

but don't you just hate it when you paint something , and then remember you were supposed to repair , where you moved the channel's from . Bang Head

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, September 11, 2017 4:37 AM

  the painting to the top of the hull is almost finished , a bit touch -up required , here and there , on the whole not too bad ,

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Posted by steve5 on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 3:35 AM

finally got the two halves together , starting to look ike a ship

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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:48 AM

Steve,

She looks great!  I am impressed so far!

Bill

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Posted by Michael D. on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 7:24 AM

Steve you must be proud thus far on what you've achived?. I like the use of the gold, nice touch!

 

Michael D.

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:06 AM

Steve, it looks gorgeous. Nice work. I love it.

 

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Posted by steve5 on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 2:35 PM

thankyou gentlemen , coming from you guy's it's very much appreciated , 

michael , I really wanted to do it in white , but it would have looked too much like your's , I had to find my own colour's , so I went patriotic , australia's colour's , LOL

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Posted by Bugatti Fan on Friday, September 15, 2017 3:09 AM

Very impressive build thread. Look forward to following it as it progresses.

A previous poster placed a reference for two books earlier on, Longridges book and the Conway book, possibly the best references available. There is also another book by Noel Hackney about building the Airfix Victory. This was published by Patrick Stephens a UK publisher back in the 1980s. It was part of a series of three books about building ships from the Airfix classic ships range. The other two being about the Cutty Sark and Mayflower. I believe that HSMO (Her Majesties Stationery Office) published a book about the restoration of the Victory many years ago also but have never actually seen this publication.

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Posted by steve5 on Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:45 AM

thank's for that BF , will look into it .

just put the main gun deck cannon's in , didn't go to , too much trouble with them , you only see the barrel end's . but hopefully this should hold them in place .

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