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1/96 Cutty Sark WIP (Revell H-399)

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  • Member since
    March, 2012
  • From: Marysville, WA
Posted by David_K on Monday, March 19, 2018 5:22 PM

Quick progress update...

Got the wire installed in the hull for the lower deadeye strops/chainplates, and glued the hull halves together.

 20180315_161621 by Dave Kump, on Flickr

I'm a little bummed about the molding of the hull parts....the wales don't line up at the stern, even though the upper edge and keel are aligned....I don't have a picture of that yet, but they look uneven, and I'll have to do something to try and fix it.  Good ol' Revell!

lol

Here's another pic of the hull, during test-fit of the base.  I used 3/4" Red Oak, and pedestals from Model Expo.

 20180316_144457 by Dave Kump, on Flickr

You'll notice the inner bulwarks are *weathery*....I can't help but apply some texture, I feel like bare paint just looks fake, so I went ahead with some thinned oils to help fill in the shadows and add some character....The oil actually darkened the lower hull so much that it now looks more like copper than the original paint I laid down...no biggie to me, but it's worth mentioning.

And finally, here's another pic after I stained the wood for the base....it's installed and levelled out (I go through great pains to make sure everything is level at this point...even if there's a minute *list*, by the time the upper masts and yards are on, it will be exxagerated!)....the bolts are tightened, tomorrow I'll apply a bunch of epoxy down in the hull to keep the hardware from ever coming loose later (which happened on my Soleil Royal, and it was a *royal* pain to re-stabilize the pedestals after the deck was in!)

 20180319_145515 by Dave Kump, on Flickr

The instructions say that mast assembly is next, so I guess that's what I'll be doing for awhile.

Thanks for looking!

Dave

 

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    December, 2010
  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Monday, March 19, 2018 5:54 PM

Looking great Dave. Your weathering technique looks right on as usual.

What gauge wire and of what material did you use for attaching the strops/chainplates?

 

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

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  • From: Western No. Carolina
Posted by gene1 on Tuesday, March 20, 2018 10:39 PM

David, your work is just flawless looking. Everything you do looks perfect. Your posts are a joy to watch.      Gene

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    March, 2012
  • From: Marysville, WA
Posted by David_K on Wednesday, March 21, 2018 4:35 PM

Thanks for the compliments, guys!

Mike, the wire I used is 28 gauge annealed dark wire, the brand is Hillman.  I've used it before for deadeye strops, and other various uses in shipmodeling....I like it because it's dark in color, and it's flexible, so it can be bent and twisted several times before it will break.  Pretty cheap, too...you can find it on eBay or Amazon for a couple bucks per 50 feet.

 

Dave

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Posted by Michael D. on Wednesday, March 21, 2018 10:02 PM

Nice start on the Cutty Sark DaveYes. No doubt I'll be appling some of your tecniques when the time comes for me to do mine when I eventually get my Victory back dating project done..

 

Michael D.

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  • From: Asheville, NC
Posted by LIVIT on Wednesday, March 21, 2018 10:37 PM

Hi Dave, looking great bud. So the deadeyes for the CS go on the inside of the hull ? I have never built a CS, so will be following your build closely.  Thanks for info on that wire, I am ordering some now, should be a help on my Connie or a future build.    Dale

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    December, 2010
  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Wednesday, March 21, 2018 11:09 PM

Dave,

I had a feeling it looked like the stuff I have. It is. I have a box of 10 of those 50ft. reels. Lord knows if or when I'll ever use them all but that stuff has come in handy more than once on ships and aircraft. 

If I ever rig another Cutty Sark I'll use your method.

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

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Posted by steve5 on Friday, March 23, 2018 5:19 AM

beautiful as always dave , could you tell me where you got those pedestals , from please .

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    December, 2010
  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Friday, March 23, 2018 10:22 AM

Steve,

Dave, in his post at the top of this page, said:

"Here's another pic of the hull, during test-fit of the base.  I used 3/4" Red Oak, and pedestals from Model Expo."

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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    July, 2013
Posted by steve5 on Friday, March 23, 2018 3:08 PM

thank's mike , sorry dave . it pay's to read everything , instead of being mesmerised by the build

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  • From: Marysville, WA
Posted by David_K on Saturday, March 24, 2018 8:49 AM
Really cool video, Rob! THX
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Posted by rwiederrich on Saturday, March 24, 2018 9:29 AM

Thought it was quite informative.

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  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Saturday, March 24, 2018 1:29 PM

Rob,

Thank you for posting that video.

I wasn't sure if I'd heard the narrator correctly when he referred to "the iron hull" in one section of dialogue but a few seconds on the internet got me the information I needed. Even though the script in that video may not have been 100% accurate as far as "the iron hull" is concerned, I found out (thanks to my ignorance and the video) that sections of the hull were indeed made of iron.

From: Royal Museums Greenwich:

"Cutty Sark’s hull was innovative for its composite design, which combined wooden planks with an iron 'skeleton' of frames, beams and cross bracing. The result was a very strong, rigid ship, with more room for cargo, because the iron framework took up substantially less space than a wholly wooden hull.

Originally the hull was covered in Muntz metal, a composite that was developed in Birmingham. The current sheathing has the same appearance, but is more readily available today."


Live and learn.

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, March 24, 2018 1:43 PM

Here's the iron part, Mike. (Different ship).

Then the entire hull was planked with oak. Over that is the Muntz metal, replacing what would have been copper on a warship or anti-fouling paint on commercial ships.

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  • From: Marysville, WA
Posted by David_K on Sunday, April 08, 2018 10:46 AM

Hey Everyone-

Thought I would stop in for a quick post.

Not a lot of especially exciting developments...I've been detail painting mast parts and applying some texture via oil washes.  I also started putting together lower deadeyes for the crosstrees so they're in place before mast assembly...using 3.5mm walnut deadeyes from Model Expo and some annealed black wire, I drilled holes in the cross trees (using the plastic deadeye parts as spacing gauges)....then I wrapped a short piece of wire around the deadeyes, twisted it around itself once, snipped off one end and pushed the remaining end down through the crosstree hole. Bent it over like a hook, and CA'd it in place...Boom!

 20180408_080459 by Dave Kump, on Flickr

 

Regarding my wood deck from Scaledecks...

I cut out all the pieces and decided to try a test fit of the main deck...to my surprise, it didn't quite fit.  The wooden part seemed to be too long (by about an 1/8")...if I fit it on one end it would line up, but it gradually grew more misaligned along the length, to the point that the holes for the foremost hatch were off by 1/8".

I was concerned, and considered that maybe I'd trimmed too much material from kit plastic parts (it's 3 large plastic deck parts cemented together to make the main weather deck)...but 1/8" is a lot of material to have taken off with a sanding stick.  I decided to reach out to Scaledecks to see if they'd heard of any other similar issues.

John at Scaledecks is a great guy, very communicative and helpful.  He told me this issue had occured rarely with their previous cutting instrument (they've since gotten a new cutter).  He graciously offered to send me a replacement, which I received quickly, and the fit is MUCH BETTER!

Additionally, there is a new design of the Cutty Sark deck kit that they offer, with a darker, richer teak coloration, and with some mismatched planks and other little nuances to give it a more realistic aspect.  It's a beautiful set.  In fact, I'd hate to say I'm glad the first set was faulty...but if it wasn't then I would not be using the new design, so there's that!

Anyway, here's a pic of the original deck, and the new style deck from Scaledecks...some may prefer the clean lines of the lighter colored deck, but for me, I really dig the new one.

 20180408_080400 by Dave Kump, on Flickr

*Oops, I posted the same pic twice...it's edited to display the correct pic now :)

Once I finish the masts, I guess I'll be installing the deck and putting eyebolts into it...I'll bring some notes and pics to the next update.

Thanks!

Dave

 

 

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  • From: Marysville, WA
Posted by David_K on Sunday, April 08, 2018 11:33 AM

Might as well add a few more pics...

Here's how I'm stropping my deadeyes (as described in the previous post)....these pics are of the t'gall deadeyes, which are super-tiny (2.5mm)...

 20180408_090555 by Dave Kump, on Flickr

I'm using the same gauge wire, so it's a bit burly compared to these tiny deadeyes

I wrapped the wire to loop around the deadeye and make it a snug fit

 20180408_090638 by Dave Kump, on Flickr

Then I bring one end of the wire over the other to loop it

 20180408_090724 by Dave Kump, on Flickr

Trim off the end, and tuck it up snugly behind the deadeye, and Ta-Da!

 20180408_090851 by Dave Kump, on Flickr

 

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Posted by scottrc on Monday, April 09, 2018 11:47 AM

Great update David, that new deck does have more appeal than the older one.  

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  • From: Marysville, WA
Posted by David_K on Sunday, April 15, 2018 11:57 AM

I agree, Scott.

I actually made some more progress this week...got most of the deck parts glued down, and even started on some shading/weathering of the scaledecks.

One point I want to make is the means of adhesive for the scaledecks.

I started out with contact cement....big mistake!  It makes a strong bond, but it grabs instantly once the parts touch each other, leaving zero time for adjustment/alignment...it was stressful, and I wasn't able to get the large deck section lined up perfectly.  I switched to regular testors liquid styrene cement for the last few pieces, and it worked great!  nice bond, plenty of time to get it all lined up before it set.  Anyway, I needed to share that point :)

Once I got the parts on, I did a little trimming on the edges, installed the brass (blackened) eyebolts and then set about some texturing.  John at Scaledecks recommended against using anything *wet* for weathering (oil paint, regular paint, washes, etc.) so I used some artist pastels I had from years ago (basically earthy-colored chalk sticks)....I used them with a gentle application and shaded the areas using a stump, or tortillon (another tool artists use for shading)...it worked pretty well, though I could use some more practice.

Here's a few pics....some of the deck parts after they were cemented, and some with shading for comparison...I may go a couple more passes with the pastels to even out the shading, but I think it looks *okay*...

Thanks for watching!
Dave

 20180409_171128 by Dave Kump, on Flickr

 20180410_150603 by Dave Kump, on Flickr

 20180411_154830 by Dave Kump, on Flickr

 20180411_154841 by Dave Kump, on Flickr

 20180415_092144 by Dave Kump, on Flickr

 20180415_092204 by Dave Kump, on Flickr

 

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Posted by rwiederrich on Sunday, April 15, 2018 7:02 PM

Dave..looking very good.

I'm quite sure your model will be exceptional.

Personally I'm not a fan of the multi-color plank deck..but that is irrelevant.

Here are some images of the CS deck for reference...during her long life.

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Posted by rwiederrich on Sunday, April 15, 2018 7:05 PM

Dave..if you are going to add some of your weathering details...will these be applied to the deck as well?

Your hull is spectacular. 

Rob

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  • From: Marysville, WA
Posted by David_K on Monday, April 16, 2018 5:01 PM

Thanks for the compliment, Rob, and thanks for the pics!  I always love getting some good views of ships!

I've actually already applied a good amount of my weathering...though, it's more of a shading technique, meant to add a little more texture than actual weathering.  If you look at the first two pics of my previous post, those are images of the wood decks glued down as-is...the next two pics show the main deck without any shading, but with a forecastle(?) deck having had some shading applied...the two last pics show the main decks (and pretty much all of them) having all been treated with shading, via the artist pastel chalks.

I'm going for a subdued, but still shaded and slightly weathered look, both for the decks, and for the rest of the model...even the mast and deck furniture are really only getting a mild treatment, to add just a touch of *weather* and mostly for shading and texture....

I wonder if I went too subtle with the decks, if it's not really noticeable?  Maybe I'll go over them with a little more vigor one more time.

I got the main deck glued in, and when I removed the clamps this afternoon, nothing popped open, so that's a good sign!  lol  The hull was slightly warped and need to be held tight to the deck while the glue dried...I'm glad it held.

Dave

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Current Project:  Revell 1/96 Cutty Sark

Recently Finished:  Imai Catalan Ship, Heller Soleil Royal

Next Up:  ???

 

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Posted by rwiederrich on Monday, April 16, 2018 6:52 PM

Looking forward to your progress.

Rob

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, April 16, 2018 9:38 PM

dave your build is looking wonderful , looking forward to seeing more

steve5

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