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REVELL PT-109 1/72 scale

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REVELL PT-109 1/72 scale
Posted by Mrchntmarine on Saturday, November 03, 2018 5:18 PM

Looking for anyone who has done one of these.  My wife gave me this almost a year ago and just opened it.  Seems very simple and much a beginners kit.  It doesnt seem too "grown up", but I have to do it and will take the opportunity to practicle on bigger items - scale wise that is.  Tips please - the plastic seems to be of a different caliber, composition, not sure what, than others ive worked on. Looks shiney so ill wash it 1st.   Anyhow, the pieces seems also to be rough and lots of remenants aroud the pieces.  All this maybe due to being a less expensive kit???  Ive usually mostly primed my kits on the sprue but am thinking here because it looks like a lot of the pieces will have to be cleaned up that here i can get away with cutting, trimming them assembly then prime and paint.  Any thoughts?  Its not a lot of pieces total and bc of the large scale looks to be a way to go.  Thoughts?  Tks!

 

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Posted by Mrchntmarine on Saturday, November 03, 2018 6:12 PM

parts washed and drying.  this is it - not much to it!

 

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, November 03, 2018 6:20 PM

Yes, I'd agree that assembling it and then painting it will be best.

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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Saturday, November 03, 2018 9:40 PM

You’re looking at a model which was newly released when John Kennedy was elected president.  The molds are hardly modern state of the art.  They are old & tired,  parts show a lot of flash or are polished smooth

The decks should not show raised planking.  The were smooth planks with a canvas coating for waterproofing.  The .50 calibers are somewhat clunky.  The best piece of armament may be the 20mm gun

Take your time. Scrape away the flash. Thin the depression railing on the gun tubs. Don’t get wrapped around the axle detailing the kit.   The 2018 release of the kit offers a couple of improvements but overall it still needs work

Oh, and BTW,  that new kit hasn’t seen wide release since Revell went bankrupt

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, November 04, 2018 6:13 AM

My take on paint then assemble, or assemble and paint- regardless of genre of model, I always find it is yes and yes.  That is, it is a mix.  If there are any seams that are not there on the real ship, these joints must be treated/smoothed after assembly. If there are no such seams, you can paint all parts on tree, then assemble, remembering to scrape away glue at joints.  But I find on most ship kits there are always some seams to fill.  So it becomes a paint, assembly, paint assemble, repeat.  Typical seams on ships are hull halves, deckhouse panel and roof seams.  Since that kit has a once piece hull, that eliminates one big seam, but there may be other subassemblies that will need treating seams.

I find every kit, even in same genre, is different.  My first step, before building, is to read and study instructions thoroughly, and analyze best order of painting and assembly, and make notes in instructions.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Mrchntmarine on Sunday, November 04, 2018 12:45 PM

Ed - thanks for the info.  Gonna think on how to get rid of the seams the best way so its flush and even.  Also, what exacylt are you referring to when you mention depression railing - the 2 piece railing pieces for each tub or something else?

 

Don - tks too!!

 

Looking forward to practing some new skills!!

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, November 04, 2018 1:38 PM

I built this about thirty years ago. It is a very basic kit, I wouldn't say "poor" and I'm not one to call things bad when they are just old. But it's really a after-school kit made for the model builder of about 1968.

IMO it's kind of like an older Monogram or Tamiya tank model. A lot of molded on detail that isn't particularily nice. Have you ever built the Monogram M48?

I'd paint it after assembly. pretty much all one color.

I'd also suggest looking for some books about the subject. That will teach you alot.

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, November 04, 2018 5:50 PM

Building this as 109 is complicated.

First off, there's a ton of info out there, more than a lot of it contradictory.

So, you, as the modeler have to bone up on a lot of gouge just to know between the various options before starting.

Now, for 2¢ 109 at about time of loss is a horrible model subject.
For one, there were a bunch of ad hoc modifications with poor documentation at the time (or even now).   Things like whether or not you ought have the portside depthcharge mounted or not.  Whether the 37mm gun on the foredeck was an M1A antitakgun with or without its M3 mount; or if it was a coaxial mount scavenged from a P-39 AirCobra.  In case you needed more stuff, there's a huge debate out the mast on 109.  To top that off, pretty much everyone agrees 109 was painted, slopily, with brushes and mops, in some locally-acquired green paint. 

So, an accurate scale model of 109 is a monochrome green between pea soup and olive, over virtually every surface, with an unmaked waterline over a green gray, or red bottom, with some sort of gun out on the foredeck, mounting unknown.  No hull numbers, not that much distinctive at all.

Now, 109 in as delivered fit, might be easier, no changes to the weapons, probably gray with a blue-gray deck over probably either red or black bottom, with 12" tall hull numbers. 

Really, on of the 19's sisters might be easier, since you can pick a few reference photos, and model away.

Your mileage may vary.

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Posted by Mrchntmarine on Friday, November 09, 2018 3:35 PM

GMorrison

I built this about thirty years ago. It is a very basic kit, I wouldn't say "poor" and I'm not one to call things bad when they are just old. But it's really a after-school kit made for the model builder of about 1968.

IMO it's kind of like an older Monogram or Tamiya tank model. A lot of molded on detail that isn't particularily nice. Have you ever built the Monogram M48?

I'd paint it after assembly. pretty much all one color.

I'd also suggest looking for some books about the subject. That will teach you alot.

 

havent done the M48.  Looks good though.  Paint to be done afterwards....  Already found a missing piece though - part of the stand.  Oh well......

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    October, 2016
Posted by Mrchntmarine on Friday, November 09, 2018 3:47 PM

CapnMac82

Building this as 109 is complicated.

First off, there's a ton of info out there, more than a lot of it contradictory.

So, you, as the modeler have to bone up on a lot of gouge just to know between the various options before starting.

Now, for 2¢ 109 at about time of loss is a horrible model subject.
For one, there were a bunch of ad hoc modifications with poor documentation at the time (or even now).   Things like whether or not you ought have the portside depthcharge mounted or not.  Whether the 37mm gun on the foredeck was an M1A antitakgun with or without its M3 mount; or if it was a coaxial mount scavenged from a P-39 AirCobra.  In case you needed more stuff, there's a huge debate out the mast on 109.  To top that off, pretty much everyone agrees 109 was painted, slopily, with brushes and mops, in some locally-acquired green paint. 

So, an accurate scale model of 109 is a monochrome green between pea soup and olive, over virtually every surface, with an unmaked waterline over a green gray, or red bottom, with some sort of gun out on the foredeck, mounting unknown.  No hull numbers, not that much distinctive at all.

Now, 109 in as delivered fit, might be easier, no changes to the weapons, probably gray with a blue-gray deck over probably either red or black bottom, with 12" tall hull numbers. 

Really, on of the 19's sisters might be easier, since you can pick a few reference photos, and model away.

Your mileage may vary.

 

 

yep.  tks.  a lot of info out there and a lot of hard to read photos.  gonna just roll with it and use it as a chance to practice priming and painting i guess.  gotta do it - a present from the wife from last year!!  tks

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Posted by rwiederrich on Friday, November 09, 2018 9:14 PM

I have the gigantic motorized version and it is pretty well injected.  I no longer have the box..but I do have the hull and most of the parts........What to do with it?

 

Rob

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