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Ideas to simulate hull plating lines on 1/200 scale USCGC Eagle?

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  • Member since
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  • From: Derry, New Hampshire, USA
Ideas to simulate hull plating lines on 1/200 scale USCGC Eagle?
Posted by rcboater on Tuesday, January 01, 2019 10:12 PM

I have the 1/200 scale Imai USCGC Eagle kit in the stash, that I’m thinking about building...

From my review on ”Rajen’s Ship List”: ”Also, the hull has no plating detail at all. Eagle is made from overlapped, riveted steel plates- the lines and rivets are prominent features of the real ship's hull.”

I’m thinking about ways to address this. I thought about maybe gluing very thin pieces of styrene sheet to the hull in places, but that seems like it could be problematic on a hull with lots of compound curved surfaces.   I also am thinking about maybe masking rows of “plates” and the adding a layer or two of primer to create the effect.

Here’s a shot of the ship in dry dock, to give an idea of what the real one looks like:

https://goo.gl/images/ZWsBNU

Any thoughts or experiences to share?

 -Bill

Webmaster, IPMS Patriot Chapter  www.ipmspatriot.org

Billerica, MA

 

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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Wednesday, January 02, 2019 6:03 AM

Paul Budzik, in his Scale Model Workshop youtube series, demostrates a technique where he uses masking tape as a straight edge and protective layer to scrape a slight bevel into a coat  of heavy auto primer.   Results in a slight ridge in the paint making a shadow line

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xXbmPilmBWA&feature=youtu.be

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, January 02, 2019 8:25 AM

Both methods will work.  The tape and heavy primer is certainly easier with any hull.  The difficulty with the styrene stock depends on the lines of the hull.  I generally use that on lakers (great lakes freighters) that have simpler, fuller lines, so it is not as much challenge there.  I have also done a composite- styrene above waterline where hull has fewer compound curves, masking tape/primer below waterline.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, January 02, 2019 9:24 AM

I'm not sure I can see that detail in the photo. At 1/200 a plate that's 1/16" or so is going to be so thin that it's a small fraction of a mil. Also, any overlay means replacing all of the other detail such as port hole frames.

What I do see is a lot of "oil canning" between the frames. While there are various ways to achieve that, again it will affect a lot of other detail that Imai included.

That Imai kit is the one really accurate model available, and as it's no longer easy to find, if it ever was, I'd work with it as is.

Here's a great thread from days past, in which you and I participated.

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/7/t/117041.aspx

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Posted by Marcus McBean on Friday, January 04, 2019 6:54 AM

I seen a video of a guy using the tape for finger nails women use to decorate their nails.  The tape is very thin and after painting it look quite convincing as hull plates.

Marcus

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Posted by Nino on Friday, January 04, 2019 4:20 PM

rcboater

I have the 1/200 scale Imai USCGC Eagle kit in the stash, that I’m thinking about building...

 

Any thoughts or experiences to share?

 -Bill

 

 
 Bill,
 
     I  have the kit on a shelf awaiting my achieving a better skill-level. No experiences on hull plating yet but some thoughts.
 
How wide do you believe the overlap should be for the plating at this scale?  Are you considering doing both the Horizontal and smaller Vertical lines?
 
It is a rare a kit to practice hull plating on.  Maybe try it on the 1/185 Tovarisch kit first?  Similar scale, similar plating lines. 
 
     Nino 
 
P.S.  If interested, you can still get all the Plans free from the Coast Guard thru the Freedom of Information act.
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Posted by CapnMac82 on Friday, January 04, 2019 6:47 PM

At 1/200, I'm not sure I'd bother.

But, this is not about me, it's about solutions.

To that end, perhaps squares/rectangles of decal film or bare metal foil, and then priner over those?  That would give a teeny little edge to weather/dry brush against.

Alternately, a person with a decent art program (like gimp) could make a bunch of black rectangles with "spattered" edges, and print those on to decal film.  Laying those over a white hull would give a black hull with mottled white edges.

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Posted by rcboater on Wednesday, January 09, 2019 12:38 PM
Thanks for the input guys. I think I will give the primer and tape, and the decal methods a shot, and see which I like better. (Lord knows I have a bunch of thick decals from old Tamiya kits in the scrap bag!) One other note: I can confirm that the Imai 1/200 kit is the correct length-- it is not based on the plans of the shorter Gorch Fock like all the other plastic kits are. (The late John Tilley posted at length about this in mutiple threads on this forum about Eagle and her sister ships.) The kit is also the only one that is a decent representation of the ship in the "modern" age- it looks like the ship when I sailed on her in the early '80s. -Bill

Webmaster, IPMS Patriot Chapter  www.ipmspatriot.org

Billerica, MA

 

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