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  • Member since
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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Friday, March 08, 2019 7:36 AM

Hi Don 

    I looked at my unbuilt one .You are right , But if you move the mast tothe rear bulkhead of the deckhouse The Winch should fit okay . I don't remember any problems with mine .I will dry fit these parts and see if I can be any help .  T.B.

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, March 08, 2019 8:51 AM

I think the hatch cover gets removed in a couple of pieces and stowed out of the way. I can see no reason to hinge it.

I realize that with the deck installed, this is hard.

Could you  cut out the hatch coaming and a section of deck the width of that and a couple of feet long aft of it, them flip the whole thing around? All the cuts would hopefully be hidden under the winch.

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  • From: Roanoke, Virginia
Posted by BigJim on Friday, March 08, 2019 8:56 AM

Here are a couple of photos to explain my previous post.

Winch stand with hatch in place.

Winch stand with hatch ajar.

You can easily see that there is plenty of room to allow the hatch to be installed and removed.
Again, the question remains is the hatch supposed to hinge? If so, there is not enough clearance to rotate past the winch pulley (part #50). The bullet shape of parts #49 could be filed down flat to allow clearance past them.

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, March 08, 2019 9:02 AM

I have decided to merely make a base to raise the winch a bit so it will fit.  Not realizing the tight fit, I had mounted the spools so that some of the handles point downward a bit, causing interference with the hatch.  I'll have to raise the winch by about a scale 15 inches.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, March 08, 2019 10:03 AM

I think thats a good idea, also because what's there is wimpy. I've looked at a bunch of seiners over the years. Those big net handling winches usually sit on pretty good sized timbers.

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Friday, March 08, 2019 10:07 PM

Well, I was curious what a giggle Image search might turn up.

This seems to support the hatch being several panels that lift out of framing.

This is much more modern, and shows individual covers

Not much else out there in image search.

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Saturday, March 09, 2019 6:35 AM

CapnMac82

Well, I was curious what a giggle Image search might turn up.

This seems to support the hatch being several panels that lift out of framing.

This is much more modern, and shows individual covers

Not much else out there in image search.

 

Thanks.  That confirms that raising the winch a bit will be an okay solution.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Saturday, March 09, 2019 8:18 AM

Don;

 Before you do that .Look at the first pictures Carefully .Those are the Trawl-Boards or Net Spreaders . The hatch is sitting on the deck with a box on top of it . Remember , I am working from Memory here . The Trawl Boards helped spread the net open and keep it that way for catching those fast squirmy little critters !

 When the trawl was lifted inboard the Bottom of the suspended net was opened , Allowing the Shrimp to fall into th hold below .Then re-cinched and dropped over again .

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, March 10, 2019 7:11 PM

There are four sets of boards along the sides.

So, one pair is clearly the trawl boards (aka "otters"). 

I have to onwder if the others go over the hatch lips to better guide the catch in.

Or not.

Mostly that photo caught my eye for being an example of the hatch being three parts all laid into one opening.

Zooming in, I cannot tell what that is on the hatch closest to the mast & winch.  It may be two boxes of the same size just sitting there.

It's definitely an older photo, just from the rigging details, and back before they much had to worry about sortign the catch into legal and bycatch.  Or before the fashion of the big stern A frame took over.

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, March 10, 2019 7:15 PM

CapnMac82

what is on the hatch closest to the mast & winch.  It may be two boxes of the same size just sitting there.

Not so many years ago, here where I live, they'd probably be cases of Whiskey on their way onshore to the Lodge at Pebble Beach.

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Monday, March 11, 2019 9:20 AM

Hmmm;

 Or cargo that breathes .I/E Illegals.

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Monday, March 11, 2019 9:23 AM

Don ;

 You can do this .Remove the timbers completely and then take the area an put new timbers and move them forward a teensy bit .That will work too .

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, March 11, 2019 4:47 PM

Couple of new pictures.

First, here is my bronzed propeller.  Sorry the flash was too high to illuminate whole propeller.  My method for painting bronze is to apply a coat of Testors copper paint, drybrush a layer of gloss brown, then a wash of green zinc chromate.

 

 

Here is the winch on its base. I didn't realize the base was crooked until I saw it in closeup picture.  Hope no one notices in normal viewing.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Monday, March 11, 2019 6:08 PM

That just allows water from the workings to drain toward the port side scuppers

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  • From: Roanoke, Virginia
Posted by BigJim on Monday, March 11, 2019 10:09 PM

Don,
Was there a reason that you installed the winch frame ends (#45 & #46) upside down?

 

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, March 12, 2019 8:57 AM

BigJim

Don,
Was there a reason that you installed the winch frame ends (#45 & #46) upside down?

 

 

 

I didn't realize they were!  So that was my problem.  The drawing on the instructions was not clear to me, and I thought the bottom was supposed to be flush.  It looks like if I had done it right, I would have had clearance without that base!

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by sharkbait on Tuesday, March 12, 2019 10:12 AM
Just curious but is this boat similar to that used in the movie "Forrest Gump"?

You have never been lost until you've been lost at Mach 3!

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Wednesday, March 13, 2019 8:52 AM

Hi;

 Kind of .It's an older model .Built about 1945-1957.

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  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Wednesday, March 13, 2019 11:23 AM

Don,

I'm delighted that you're building one of the older ship kits. I've always liked fishing trawlers. 

As others have mentioned you'll have to work out problems with the old Lindberg kits but you have the modeling knowledge and ability to see it through just fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1dz1YRXdOA

 

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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  • From: Roanoke, Virginia
Posted by BigJim on Wednesday, March 13, 2019 12:22 PM

One thing that I have noticed while searching for photos of shrimp boats is that I haven't really seen any of the ventilation funnels sticking up. There are three on the model, none in photos. Any thoughts?

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  • From: Canada
Posted by sharkbait on Wednesday, March 13, 2019 3:13 PM
I had a demented vision of a model of the “Jenny” with Lt. Dan up the mast. LOL

You have never been lost until you've been lost at Mach 3!

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Posted by domer94 on Thursday, March 14, 2019 3:15 PM

i found a good pic of the exact boat... unfortunatly its a forward view.  is there a way on this forum to post a pic without one of the third party imaging accounts? seems most forums are allowing posting from regular jpg attachments without url.....

 

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  • From: Atlanta Metro, Georgia
Posted by fright on Thursday, March 14, 2019 3:28 PM

Don - I came across your build of Lindberg's Shrimp Boat. I'll be following along. I purchased this kit about 6months ago and I just started priming the hull, deck and parts on sprue tree. I'm hoping I can build a close copy to Forest Gump's 'Jenny".  Your build so far looks very nice and I'm glad I came across this one. I'll spring for the cocktail sauce when you finish! Wink

Robert O

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Friday, March 15, 2019 11:04 PM

domer94
is there a way on this forum to post a pic without one of the third party imaging accounts? seems most forums are allowing posting from regular jpg attachments without url.....

Sadly, no.

Sometimes (only sometimes) you can use Google Photos.

But, really, you have to use 3rd party.

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Sunday, March 17, 2019 9:39 AM

Big Jim ;

 Those are actually Behind the boat .Probably on the vessel ahead of the shrimper at the wharf .

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, March 17, 2019 5:34 PM

BigJim
that I haven't really seen any of the ventilation funnels sticking up. There are three on the model, none in photos. Any thoughts?

Might be Linberg was just using up some of their stock details to have "stuff" on the boat.

The modern boats have a single house--the pilothouse, and there's not a lot of need for crew ventilation as the trips are not that long any more.  Modern deisels are water cooled, and have less ventilation requirements, too.

The way the boats "fish" is a lot different, too.  Whic his reflected i nthe big stern A frames you see on the boats.  The boats pretty much use a center trawl, which is brought in over the sterm (which helps with sorting out the by-catch).  The outriggers are largely ther just to stablized the boat in roll.

In says of old, like the era depicted by the kit, the trawl went out over one side or the other (typically starboard), and the trawl held open by that boom; the other boom offset the drag on the other with an otter pulling down.  The net was brought in over rollers on the starboard side and catch processed into the hold from there.

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, March 19, 2019 9:34 AM

CapnMac82

In says of old, like the era depicted by the kit, the trawl went out over one side or the other (typically starboard), and the trawl held open by that boom; the other boom offset the drag on the other with an otter pulling down.  

Or each boom had stage hands taking turns hauling on a line to make the boat rock back and forth in a hutticane.

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