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Super Detailing a Larger Scale ship Cut-Away

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  • Member since
    June, 2014
  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Super Detailing a Larger Scale ship Cut-Away
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Sunday, March 03, 2019 1:36 PM

 Hi Men and Ladies , Girls and Boys;

    It's the old Tanker-Builder with a lil bit of info fer ya ! How many of you want to do a Cut Away in a marine subject ?I would like to make a recommendation . Purchase a LINDBERG " Cape : Class Coast Guard Cutter . I don't remember the scale But I think it's 1/60th . The plans are available from some sources which I don't remember .

   The reason I recommend this vessel .You can get away with a mix of H.O and N Model Railroad parts for the inner detail . The N scale Oil Refinery kits by Walther can be used for the small piping evident everywhere in the belowdecks areas .Plus there are the flanges with bolts molded in and elbows and valves as well . 

     Now , go back to H.O.and get your Diesels . Yup , H.O. and they are very easy to Marinize and do the air induction and exhaust systems . Oh , by the way Thes vessels had " wet " exhaust systems .The cooling water circulated through the block was expelled with the exhaust .  The interiors of the cabins can also be a mix of these two railroad scales .The result .A breath-taking rendering of said cutter not often seen .

   If you want to be inventive here's a Tip for All Cut Away types .Take All your Super Clear Sprue and make some extra thick sprue glue . Use a NEW botle of Tamiya Glue ( Green Label )and let it mix well stirring occassionally for a good mix . Now Take foil  Shiny side out ,and cover the area you are going to Cut - Away ! Tape it securely and make a dam at the edges at least a Quarter inch away the edge removed section of your decided area.

   Pour , " Gently " the sprue Glue on the foil . Make sure your vessel , Tank, whatever , is supported very well .It will take about a week or so for the material to Gas out .  Viola! you have a clear insert for the Cut-Away area so the line of your item will not be compromised and it will stay Dust Free  inside . 

    Only if you cut blocky edges can you do this with a Vacuformed piece , Unless you are crazy good at cutting lines and cuts in freeform shapes . Then you can use the cutout as a mold .This won't work with a Mattel Vac-U-Form ! The forming deck area isn't big enough . Good luck and Happy Modeling ! T.B.

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    January, 2015
Posted by PFJN on Monday, March 04, 2019 3:41 PM

Hi,

About a month or so ago, I finally got around to buying a 1/144 scale modern SSK model from Revell that I have had my eye on for awhile.

Revell

While searching the internet I was able to come across a couple isometric drawings of the boat's internal arrangements an inboard profile and a lot of pictures off Wikiepdia that someone had uploaded of a 1/25 scale model of one of these boats, with cur-outs in way of several different locations onboard the sub, like shown below.

Iso

IB1

IB 2

Wiki A

Wiki 6

In addition, I have also been able to find a couple plan views of some different modern subs that I am hoping might be able to help me "fill in some of the gaps" that I might not be able to find for the U212 class, like shown below.

T209

Overall, my "long-term" goal is to maybe some day try and build this kit with at least parts of the hull cut away to show "generically" what the inside of a submarine like this might look.  In general I don't really have any plans to try and make it overaly accurate, but instead I just want something that looks reasonably close Stick out tongue

In the end though, I'm not really sure when/if I will actually ever getting arround to doing such a build, but it is kind of fun trying to research and plan parts of it.

PF

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, March 04, 2019 4:07 PM

You'd enjoy it! I built the Revell Type XXI, with interior. Somewhat against my mindset as I avoid the subject. But I did it as a training sub.

The various kits, from the old Revell/ Renwal SSBN's up to and including the Type XXI; fail to show the pressure hull as a separate, inner cylinder. If you can find some sections, it's really helpful. I think it's one of the more interesting aspects of subs.

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Posted by PFJN on Monday, March 04, 2019 9:50 PM

Hi,

I never built a Type XXI, but I did build an old Revell SSBN when I was younger Smile.  It was a fun kit.

PF

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    June, 2014
  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Tuesday, March 05, 2019 3:19 PM

This is for you " G " and PFJN .

Have either of you done the Revell model of Gunther Priens " U -47 " Believe it or not It wasn't the Nuke Subs I did .Revell's and Renwal's Were both to me , a detail freek even then,a nice project . Now Prein's Boat gave me the ideal for the cutaway style I now use .

 When building them , especially Subs , as you said " G ", provisions need to be made for the outer hull and the Pressure Hull . With " Single Hulled" vessels this is not a primary worry .But you do need to frame it out inside with longitudals and the regular frames  where they are visible on the other side of the vessel , where applicable !

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, March 05, 2019 3:32 PM

I haven't, don't really build DKM stuff. The XXI was a captured post-war model for me.

I think the sub, the U212A type is double hull except for on the bottom, so a cut away like that big one has some layers to it.

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    June, 2014
  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Saturday, March 09, 2019 8:55 AM

Hi " G " 

    Yeah that's fer sure .

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