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Glueing a PE ship railing

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  • Member since
    April 2019
  • From: Arizona
Glueing a PE ship railing
Posted by Allessio77 on Tuesday, April 9, 2019 7:57 AM

Before I ruin my kit, I thought maybe I better ask...How to you attach the PE railings to ships (and when...after painting?)

Tags: glue , Railing , Ship

1ST ADULT MODEL 03/2019

Point Zero Airbrush PA-260 Nozzle Dia .3mm

Vallejo and Tamiya Paints

 

  • Member since
    March 2003
  • From: Western North Carolina
Posted by Tojo72 on Tuesday, April 9, 2019 12:54 PM

Try this stuff,Gator Grip Glue

http://www.gatorsmask.com/gatorglueorder1.html

I would glue after painting,then touch up a little if needed.

  • Member since
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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Tuesday, April 9, 2019 1:05 PM

If you ask a 6 ship modelers how to do this you will get at least a dozen answers, most of them different.

My approach, your milage may vary.

Paint the ship & decks before attaching railings.   (Of course if you are adding items such as applique hatchways, liferings, firehoses, etc.,  apply them before painting.)  As far as painting sequence, I pain the deck, then go back and apply a myriad of small masking tape/paper masks to mask the deck around bollards and along bulkheads, gun tubs, turret barbettes, etc.  Then paint the verticals.   It gets more complicated if you are doing something with a dazzle pattern.  

I also airbrush paint the PE on the fret.   You will go back later and hand touchup any nicks or cracks.

Remove the masking.   Measure your PE runs with a pair of draftsman's dividers.   Measure logical breakpoints, bulkhead to bulkhead, bulkhead to gun tub, along to lader breaks, etc.  Cut uout railing to this length.  Resist the urge to do an entire side just because uou have a piece of brass that long.   Work in manageable 2 to 3 inch lengths.  Sand or file off any fret attachment nubs.  Remember you will touch up later.

Form any shapes needed.   Wrap around a drill shank or dowel (no purpose built tools needed) for a round.  Make square bends with some square-jaw pliers, or use a pair of single edge razor blades in opposition, one above and one below at the bend.  Raise the lower one in a hinge motion to the desired bend angle..

Apply pencil point size dots of glue to the railing at each end and every 1/2 inch or so.   I use Aleenes Tacky Glue, a craft store item.   Works as well as most of the hobby industry specialty glues and 1)  it costs much less  2) it is readily available without sending off a special order.   Apply the rail & wiggle just a bit to spread the glue.  Aleenes has the benefit of grabbing quickly but it allows for some reposition time (try that with super glue).

clean up any squeeze outs with a Q-tip & water.

Work inside to out and top to bottom.   That way you run less chance of disturbing prior work.

When your glue is dry go back with some superglue to premenantly attach the rail.    I use very fien glue tips such as these:

Darren Scannell of the Resin Shipyard demonstrated how to make these using radio control actuator sheath material.   See his procedure here:  http://www.resinshipyard.com/pages/tip_pages/glue_tips.html

RC cable sheath is something like 5 dollars for a 2 foot length.

With this you are able to lay down a very fine drop of glue.   Run a bead of glue along the inside of the gutter (bottom) rail.

Go back now and hand paint any nicks or cracks on the PE.

Spray a very light coat of clear flat to kill the shine on the PE

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, April 9, 2019 1:45 PM

Excellent description. 

Others may disagree, but I prefer to incorporate corners into my railings rather than have joins there. Havin a curve or bend in a piece helps it stand up until the glue is dry.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Arizona
Posted by Allessio77 on Tuesday, April 9, 2019 4:15 PM
Going to get some of this Gator grip...they have two versions...which one do you use for rails?

1ST ADULT MODEL 03/2019

Point Zero Airbrush PA-260 Nozzle Dia .3mm

Vallejo and Tamiya Paints

 

  • Member since
    April 2019
  • From: Arizona
Posted by Allessio77 on Tuesday, April 9, 2019 4:16 PM

GMorrison

Excellent description. 

Others may disagree, but I prefer to incorporate corners into my railings rather than have joins there. Havin a curve or bend in a piece helps it stand up until the glue is dry.

 

 

This is what I'm concerned with...It must be tough to get the glue dry on rails that have no joints, bends or places to insert.

1ST ADULT MODEL 03/2019

Point Zero Airbrush PA-260 Nozzle Dia .3mm

Vallejo and Tamiya Paints

 

  • Member since
    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, April 9, 2019 4:33 PM

It is harder. Sometimes little pieces of tape can hold it in place.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Derry, New Hampshire, USA
Posted by rcboater on Tuesday, April 9, 2019 6:38 PM

+1 on the Aileen’s Tacky glue! You can find at at most Arts and Crafts type stores.

It also  takes very little tape to hold a piece of railing in place. You just need the railing to stay vertical long enough for the glue to grab.

 I also use little pieces of square balsa or basswood stock to prop railings up to keep them vertical.  The great thing there is you can sand or carve them so they clear obstructions and don’t touch the glued area....

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  • Member since
    April 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 2:26 AM

Subscribed - I have quite a bit of PE railing to add to the Titanic build I'm doing.

Thanks,

John

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:14 AM

I glue the rail (already painted) to the deck first with spots of gel CA.  That holds it in place while I go back and lay thinned white glue along the whole join of railing to deck.  Those spots of CA hold it in place whether it has corners or not.

I have friends that use only the thinned white glue, but they have to hold some railings in place for quite a while, or hope it stays in place while it dries.  I prefer an easier job, hence the spots of CA.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: Philadelphia Pa
Posted by Nino on Thursday, April 11, 2019 1:46 PM

It was mentioned but here is a picture of the Gator Glue Thin Blend , recommended for PE:

Nino

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