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1/700 Tamiya CVE-9 USS Bogue

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1/700 Tamiya CVE-9 USS Bogue
Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, May 2, 2019 7:27 PM

I just finished this kit after an on-again, off-again three year build.

This build was a lot of fun. It's a waterline kit, so the first thing I wanted to do was add a full depth hull. Since the whole model is about 8" long and 1 1/2" wide, that just took a single piece of basswood cut on my table saw.

The Bogue spent most of her WW2 service in the Atlantic. The one flaw are the aircraft. The Hellcats were about 20% too small, and all four types had stumps for landing gear.

I bought a set of Trumpeter F4F-3's as they don't seem to have -4s in that scale. 

Otherwise, a couple of little frets from Tom's was the only other AM.

She's painted Measure 32, 4A which I hadn't really paid attention to in photos before, although going back through what I have, she was that in between two rounds of Measure 22.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by Tojo72 on Thursday, May 2, 2019 7:32 PM
Very nice job,looks great.

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Posted by keavdog on Thursday, May 2, 2019 11:19 PM

Looks great GM - I hadn't heard of this ship and did a bit of web browsing.  And now I know what escort carriers are.  Nice job.

Thanks,

John

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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Thursday, May 2, 2019 11:47 PM

Nicely done GM.  Nice paint on the little flattop.

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Posted by warshipguy on Friday, May 3, 2019 6:42 AM

Bill,

I love the full hull!  Great work!

Bill

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, May 3, 2019 8:58 AM

Looks great!

I have seen a couple other great builds of that kit.  Think maybe I should get one.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, May 3, 2019 9:08 AM

Thanks all for coming by. 

It's a kit that started as a Skywave/ Pitroad model. I think Tamiya made a few small additions, maybe the aircraft.

It could be a nice Royal Navy ship as well. Ten Bogues were sent to the RN. The same aircraft types were used by the Fleet Air Arm, primarily F4F's, TBM's, and F6F's.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Wyoming Michigan
Posted by ejhammer on Friday, May 3, 2019 9:10 AM
Nicely done! EJ

Completed - 1/525 Round Two Lindberg repop of T2A tanker done as USS MATTAPONI, USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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Posted by Nino on Friday, May 3, 2019 10:31 AM

Really impressive work.  That Camo looks perfect.  How did you manage that nicely feathered spray pattern?

 And like the other Bill M says.. Great Work!   Nice hull!

 

     Jim.

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  • From: Seattle, WA
Posted by Surface_Line on Friday, May 3, 2019 10:22 PM

Oh for Pete's sake.

I can't figure out where people are seeing photos of your model.

You did well by using the Tamiya kit.  The mods on it were good stuff - the weapons were clunky and the aircraft were not suited for an operational CVE.  Skywave's original British kit (HMS Tracker) had a B-17 and a PBY Catalina.  After all these years I have finally found a use for the PBY.  Skywave's US release was USS Bogue, but the aircraft inside were a deckload of USAAF birds for transport - P-38s and P-51s.  Bleah.  Interesting for an aircraft transport, but useless for an ASW carrier.

I built my first CVE as a British ship with Seafires on deck.  The British made two fairly distinct classes - early Attacker class and later Ruler class.  The most obvious distinction was the number of 40mm mounts - early class had four and later had eight.  And the British used them for several different purposes, dictating the make-up of the airwing.  I intend to build several more.

The US Bogue class ships were used for ASW in the Atlantic and primarily transport in the Pacific.  Good for a couple of variants, but that's about all.  Not similar enough to the 50 US Casablanca class ships to convert to one of them.

Sorry to run on like this.  It is a favorite topic of mine.  I look forward to figuring out how to see your photos.

Rick

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Posted by gene1 on Friday, May 3, 2019 10:33 PM

GM, I don;t know why, but I can't get the pictures. I will try my other computer as I really want to see them.

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Posted by warshipguy on Saturday, May 4, 2019 7:37 AM

Bill,

What are the dimensions of the model?

Thanks!

Bill

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Posted by gene1 on Saturday, May 4, 2019 9:17 AM

 Bill, Last night I couldn't get the pics on either computer & this morning they came in beautifully.  That is a  really great little model & your painting looks great. You do live up to your reputation as a modeler.

   I was going to ask you why the Island was so far forward & then I remembered it is a CVE.  It reminded me of the book I just finished for the third time,  Pacific Glory by P T Deutermann. It is fiction about the battle of Samar in the Phillipines in Oct 1944. The author is a career Navy destroyer Captain, his father was a Vice Admirall & his son & daughter are Navy pilots. The book is very accurate & contains so much that my brother told me about. He saw so much, but he did miss that battle because halsey took all the new battleships after the remaaining Jap carriers.

   At the end of the book the author tellss of his real life visit with Adm. Nimitz on Treasure Island. His books are all superb .

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, May 4, 2019 10:11 AM

I'm glad that the pictures showed up.

Bill- the model is 8 1/4" long O.A. The flight deck is 7 1/2" long and 1 3/8" wide for most of it's length. It scales well from what I checked, except for the Grumman fighters. I'm pretty sure that they are Hellcats, although it's a little tough to tell. But the wingspan is about 20% too short, and ir's very noticable. Other aircraft provided are Avengers, Helldivers and Corsairs. They seem to scale well.

There are two island options. One has the added vertical braces on the starboard side.

That and the various radar fit outs are the main spotting differences among the Bogues and their British sisters.

Gene, The Battle off Samar is quite a story. I won't recap it here, and the CVE's involved were other classes, but the combined 14 carriers of the 7th fleet collectively had over 400 aircraft, matching 4 fleet carriers.

Two CVE's were sunk- Gambier Bay and St. Lo. Two destroyers and one DE, the Samuel Roberts were sunk. But the IJN lost three heavy cruisers and suffered damage to quite a few other ships.

The Bogue class were converted C-3 cargo ships. That's the same hull as the post war "Hawaiian Pilot" ship that Revell has been selling since the king of England was Catholic.

They were a good choice to convert because they had steam turbine engines and could make 18 knots. That's nothing compared to an Essex that could go over 30 knots, but was certainly adequate to escort convoys in the Atlantic or protect attack transports in the Pacific.

Because of the Ruler and Attacker classes of RN ships based on Bogues, this model is actually one of a fairly small group of RN carrier kits available in plastic.

 

 

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Saturday, May 4, 2019 11:26 AM

Bill,

Thanks!  Please don't forget that the other CV conversions, the CVL's, could also hit 31 knots and were able to keep up with the Essex class carriers.  Your little "Jeep Carrier" model is an exceptional job.  I am impressed!

Bill

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  • From: Bethlehem PA
Posted by the Baron on Saturday, May 4, 2019 11:48 AM

Nice finish, GM!  I'm thinking of getting one of these, and you've convinced me to drop the hammer and make the deal.

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, May 4, 2019 1:17 PM

The decal sheet includes numbers and names for 9 Bogue, 11 Card, 12 Copahee, 13 Core, 16 Nassau, 18 Altahama, 20 Barnes, 23 Breton, 25 Croatan and 31 Prince William.

Deck numbers for 20.

Enough markings for eight aircraft.

My criticisms- the aircraft are marginal. 4 each F6F, 4 TBF, 4 SB2C and 4 F4Us. The fighters are too small, they all have very soft detail, and the landing gear are pegs.

I bought a set of Wildcats. I couldn't find any with folded wings, which was usually how they were on these little ships, so I just used eight as though about to take off.

The flight deck has one cat. I think some of the Bogues had two, but I let it go.

The 5" guns sit on big bases, as on a CV, but those don't fit well in the little galleries under the stern. I put them in as is, but a little modification would help.

The 40s are nice, the 20s are acceptable.

The mast and radar are per usual for plastic. Tom's sells a CVE set that's a real bargain for $ 10 (it is after all about the size of a credit card). That gets you plenty of radar options, a new mast, 20s (which I saved for another day), a new mast and other stuff like a/c props. I pinged off a couple of parts that were kind of critical so I ended up buying two. But it's all usable. And railings need to be obtained. Again, I used about 1/2 of a fret and they are usable of course on other ships.

To answer the question about the feathered pattern, I practiced a little with my a/b and it went better than I expected. One thing I learned when I was building 1/72 fighter planes is that it often isn't possible to mask the whole model's camouflage at once, even color by color. I painted the entire hull 5-L, then identified 10 areas of the blue and masked and painted them one by one.

I was happy with the results, only the second 1/700 ship I've built. I added a CVL and three CLs to my stash.

 

 

 

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, May 4, 2019 11:26 PM

Last night the photos were a no-show; tonight, just fine.

Nice kit of a neglected class.

Proof positive that the carrier you have is better than the idea carrier building in the yards.

If there was a plastic kit of one n 1/350, it would be easy to sort out the air arm, USN or RN, too.  (Curse me for dreaming of a KW ft-out with AD-4, AF, the odd S-2...)

Hugely impressive at 1/700.

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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Sunday, May 5, 2019 7:45 AM

Capn,

The closest I have seen in 1/350 is the USS Liscome Bay (CVE 56) by (I believe) Hasegawa.  Close but no cigar!

Bill

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  • From: Philadelphia Pa
Posted by Nino on Sunday, May 5, 2019 6:45 PM

Capn' ,  One more kit, though again, no Cigar: 1/350 Gambier Bay CVE-73 by Hasegawa.

Relatively  cheap at ScaleHobbyist. (There's also an Amazon listing that is close And has free shipping!)

GM,

    It was my intention to try my hand at a lower plastic hull by using a paper kit as a template but after seeing your success without resorting to "copying", I am greatly impressed. Terrific work at 1/700. I would have bet on your model being 1/350 had you not told us.

    Please do more Full Hull ships in 1/700.

    Nino.

 

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    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, May 5, 2019 7:40 PM

I like the looks of that Hasegawa kit. It's a Casablanca class, the most numerous at 50 of the CVE's.

Hasegawa had a habit of kitting USN ships that the IJN sank.

Yes, that's the plan. I have 1/700 Brooklyn, Cleveland and Atlanta CLs  in the stash. I've told myself that for every shelf queen I finish (current count about 6) I'll open a new one up.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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    August 2014
  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Sunday, May 5, 2019 8:29 PM

Have CVE-73 in the stash, along with the 3 upgrade kits.  Just hope she comes out as nice as yours

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