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Slowly progressing on my first model ship

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  • From: Saskatchewan, Canada
Posted by sickdude on Friday, March 20, 2020 8:35 PM
Been quietly following along, wonderful work sir! Yes. Wish my modelling skills were as good as yours, you have my support and adoration Smile.

William (Willy)

 
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Posted by ChrisSC on Saturday, March 21, 2020 12:02 AM

sickdude
Been quietly following along, wonderful work sir! Yes. Wish my modelling skills were as good as yours, you have my support and adoration Smile.
 

Hi. Thanks for the kind words but I'm new at this and upon closer inspection you would find there are a lot of errors that I have made. I do appreciate your thoughts though.

 

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Posted by keavdog on Saturday, March 21, 2020 1:13 AM

Agree!  Great progress.  Mine sits in the box but I did get the new rigging line so we will see.  Looking great!

Thanks,

John

Ain't no reason to hang my head, I could wake up in the mornin' dead 

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Posted by Rick Sr on Saturday, March 21, 2020 9:55 AM

The frigates were built in six different yards, and none are 100% identical, so you could say some of those builders made mistakes too. Welcome to the "goof club" and have fun goofing up. "Oops" and "Oh Oh" are a modelers favorite words! Maybe, "Oh no!" too.

Your Constitution looks great.

How many of you cuss when you goof up?Confused

 

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, March 22, 2020 10:57 AM

GMorrison

It usually kind of shows. Something like a big hull has some color variation. If you at least mask an area that makes some sense as a plate or series of, and do that in a couple of other places as well; it might actually look very accurate.

 

I have glosscoated the whole hull (before adding decks and superstructure, for decaling.  How visible the result is after dullcoating the whole thing depends on the decal brand.  One thing that helps a lot is to trim the decals to eliminate the surrounding clear decal as much as possible.  I wait for weathering after the hull is complete to vary coloration with washes or very light airbrush overcoat.  Usually any rust stains are wash.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by ChrisSC on Sunday, March 22, 2020 5:19 PM

Don Stauffer

 

 
GMorrison

It usually kind of shows. Something like a big hull has some color variation. If you at least mask an area that makes some sense as a plate or series of, and do that in a couple of other places as well; it might actually look very accurate.

 

 

 

I have glosscoated the whole hull (before adding decks and superstructure, for decaling.  How visible the result is after dullcoating the whole thing depends on the decal brand.  One thing that helps a lot is to trim the decals to eliminate the surrounding clear decal as much as possible.  I wait for weathering after the hull is complete to vary coloration with washes or very light airbrush overcoat.  Usually any rust stains are wash.

 

 

Thanks for the tips. Lots of photo etch in this little structure. More items to be added also.

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Posted by Model Monkey on Sunday, March 22, 2020 6:32 PM

Lovely work. Well done.

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Posted by ChrisSC on Monday, March 23, 2020 2:13 PM

Thanks. Test fitting the funnels today.

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Posted by ChrisSC on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 8:24 AM
I’m preparing to prime the funnels. I had purchased an old used kit on ebay that was made by Entex for a very cheap price to use for spare parts as I was sure I would mess some things up. The only thing that was done on this used kit was that someone had painted the hull. It looks like they messed up the gold stripe that I couldn’t figure out how to mask and gave up. All the sprues were intact. The Entex kit was released in 1976.
 
The updated Minicraft kit which has some new parts I am currently building (11320) was released in 2017. I have noticed that the parts of the older kit are much, much cleaner with way less warping and especially much less excess plastic around the small parts. I guess that can be attributed to the forms they have been using wearing out over time? In retrospect I probably should have built the older kit and just used the parts that were updated from the new kit.
 
This model kit has been around a long time in its various forms from different companies that have received the rights to manufacture it and it shows in the deterioration of the parts quality. Anyway, I just thought that was something kind of interesting and surprising being that I have the two to compare. I have read that some that know more than I stated they cleaned up the manufacturing process on the newer one but I haven’t found that to be the case for the most part in my experience with this model.
 
I have one more old kit I plan on building after this, Lusitania, and then I will give my best effort on the brand new tooled 1/200 Titanic. I am looking forward to that one as I am hoping I can concentrate on just building the model and not wrestling with the parts from decades old design technology. The other thing I am happy about in relation to the 1/200 is that it was designed in conjunction with the company that will be releasing the photo etch and the wood decks. The 1/350 has been a challenge for me who is new at this to retrofit some of the aftermarket detail parts on a model that was not originally designed with PE and wood decks in mind. That being said I am still enjoying the process and hopefully dealing with these issues will improve my skills for the next one.
 
With all that’s going on today, being stuck in the house, I’m glad I have these models to take my mind off all the troubles we are dealing with…..at least for a little while each day!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 9:22 AM

Cracking job Chris

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 9:53 AM

Looking great!

You are not that slow!  Amazing progress.  I have been ship modeling for over half a century, and a kit that complicated would take me at least four to six months to build.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by domer94 on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:04 AM

this is getting me excited for the 1/200 kit someday...

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Posted by ChrisSC on Thursday, March 26, 2020 1:59 PM
Some of this lifeboat photo etch is super tiny and delicate. I tried using low tack masking tape with paper behind it to cover the parts I don't want to paint at the moment. I am thinking without doing that removing the masking tape might bend up these delicate pieces. Seems to be working out.

The chocks didn't work out. They just don't look good.

Assembling the davits poses the same uniformity issue in addition to the davits themselves consisting of many tiny parts that I'm sure will pose problems gluing together while trying to keep them straight at all angles. You also need to use a piece of stranded wire as a rod to hold all the parts together. I am keeping the plastic davits safe as I may have to resort to them if I don't have the skill to put this together looking somewhat decent.
I'm undecided if I will use the photo etch davits or not. I'm trying to get some uniformity in bending the arms. The first one I did as a one off. I am now trying to keep bending the same type parts one after another to try and get some sort of system going. They all sit in close proximity to each other so variations would be very obvious. I also have the issue of running out of parts as I have messed up the first few learning how to construct them and don't know what the availability of getting another set is with our current situation.
There is a tiny, and I mean tiny little ring at the ends of the arms that I have broken off of a few which are pointed to in the photo. After everything is bent that ring needs to be twisted 90 degrees. It's fragile and I really don't know what I'm doing lol, so a few have just disintegrated. When these have broken off I can't even find them and there's no way I could reattach anyway...too small. In my case I really needed a practice set to mess up before putting them on the ship!!! I will continue to give my best effort though and see how they look.

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Posted by sickdude on Thursday, March 26, 2020 5:20 PM
Wow sir! [8)] Your skills are amazing to do work like that, first ship model you say... I say your going to go far in the ship modelling world. Good stuff Smile.

William (Willy)

 
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Posted by keavdog on Thursday, March 26, 2020 5:52 PM

Great progress and looking sharp.  What color are you painting the funnels?  I ask because I bought 2 or 3 different colors trying to match the box art.  I'll post a pic of the paints. 

Thanks,

John

Ain't no reason to hang my head, I could wake up in the mornin' dead 

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Posted by ChrisSC on Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:00 PM

sickdude
Wow sir! [8)] Your skills are amazing to do work like that, first ship model you say... I say your going to go far in the ship modelling world. Good stuff Smile.
 

I don't have artistic talent to do what I see others do on their models. I can't paint with a brush and probably won't be good at weathering etc. I am just very careful with how I mask the things I spray paint lol, but thanks just the same.

As far as the funnels go I haven't gotten to that yet but I think I'm going to start out with flesh as the base and add some others like yellow, brown, orange.....and see how it looks. That's going to be an experiment.

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Posted by keavdog on Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:09 PM

Here's the two I bought - the old square bottle looks closest

Thanks,

John

Ain't no reason to hang my head, I could wake up in the mornin' dead 

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Posted by ChrisSC on Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:15 PM

keavdog

Here's the two I bought - the old square bottle looks closest

 

Yes the square bottle for sure looks closer. I think you might have to add a little something but that looks like a good place to start.

I saw a real good funnel color on another website and I copied down what he said he was using. This is what he said " I actually used this combination. I started with the yellow and flesh, then added orange until I got the result you see." I didn't think of flesh but I figure I'll try it since his looked really good.

 
 
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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:53 PM

A little brown, but close.

http://www.colorserver.net/showcolor.asp?fs=30371

Colourcoats makes the state of the art of that color. Tin shown is wrong on this link but order info is correct.

https://store.spruebrothers.com/product_p/wempm22xxx.htm

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Posted by ChrisSC on Friday, March 27, 2020 7:58 AM

GMorrison

A little brown, but close.

http://www.colorserver.net/showcolor.asp?fs=30371

Colourcoats makes the state of the art of that color. Tin shown is wrong on this link but order info is correct.

https://store.spruebrothers.com/product_p/wempm22xxx.htm

 

That color looks right on the mark.

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Posted by ChrisSC on Friday, March 27, 2020 10:36 AM

That's as close as I can bend them to uniformity without making myself nuts!

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Posted by ChrisSC on Saturday, March 28, 2020 12:16 PM

These are a real pain. By the time I got towards the end of them they were getting assembled faster and somewhat better. There's a learning curve for sure.

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Posted by Rick Sr on Saturday, March 28, 2020 2:29 PM

I meant your Titanic. I am working on a Constitution and made a slip. There is a 1/200 titanic that's 5 feet long. 

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Posted by ChrisSC on Saturday, March 28, 2020 2:43 PM

Rick Sr

I meant your Titanic. I am working on a Constitution and made a slip. There is a 1/200 titanic that's 5 feet long. 

 

That's what I figured lol. Yes I have that Trumpeter Titanic sitting in its box. It's huge! I'm trying to learn some stuff on this one in preperation for building the 1/200.

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Posted by Rick Sr on Saturday, March 28, 2020 4:30 PM

You have the 1/200? Insanely jealous!

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Posted by ChrisSC on Monday, March 30, 2020 12:19 PM

Rick Sr

You have the 1/200? Insanely jealous!

 

I bought it the first week it was out. When I first thought about building a model and started reading up on modeling online I heard lots of people talking about this big Titanic model coming out. A place had it in stock so I pulled the trigger. It kind of changed my plans because I don't feel so bad if things don't come out well on the one I'm building now. This one is good practice for my eventually getting to the 1/200.

Worked on some lifeboats, small inclined ladders, and assembled the compass tower. I'm finding the photo etch is really not easy. Maybe it's the 1/350 scale. I can't imagine trying to do it on say a 1/600 or smaller. People that are able to do that have my admiration! They must have really good eyes, steady hands, and loads of talent and patience.

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Posted by Rick Sr on Monday, March 30, 2020 12:54 PM

That's a really good job! Do you intend to avoid ice bergs?

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Posted by ChrisSC on Monday, March 30, 2020 1:39 PM

Rick Sr

That's a really good job! Do you intend to avoid ice bergs?

 

Thanks. Yup, icebergs and my arm breaking this delicate stuff off the model while trying to attach stuff.

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Posted by Rick Sr on Monday, March 30, 2020 7:36 PM

You know, maybe you could float that 1/200 with a little ballast...add a small rc engine, working rudders and props...just saying!

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Posted by ChrisSC on Monday, March 30, 2020 7:50 PM

Rick Sr

You know, maybe you could float that 1/200 with a little ballast...add a small rc engine, working rudders and props...just saying!

 

I'm sure someone is going to try it! I decided to start putting some cranes together. I will not be using CA glue for those anymore. I dry fit them and all was perfect and then the glue dried too fast. Had to remove them and that messed them up. I got them on as good as I could but a lesson learned. I have a lot of trouble with that glue, either it dries too fast or it takes too long. Don't like it.

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