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Soviet Nuc. fast attack colors
Posted by Rick Martin on Thursday, September 27, 2007 4:59 PM
Might have missed this in another thread but starting to work on a 1/350 Zvezda "November" class Russian sub (K-3). They call for the hull to be painted sea blue which I kinda question just a bit. I'm thinking maybe black but not really sure. Thought I'd get some input here and will try doing a google for any more info. If anyone has any ideas, sure would appreciate it.  Thanks in advance. Rick Martin
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Posted by PeeweeBiggs on Friday, September 28, 2007 12:18 AM

I'd like to see photos of your progress with this, Rick. I have this model as well plus the Kursk and the K-19 both by Zvezda.

 

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Posted by hwells on Friday, September 28, 2007 10:14 PM

Hi Peewee.  I'm working on the K-19 as we speak.  I used Tamiya red, X-7 acrylic for the lower hull and Floquil Oily Black for the upper part.  Personnally, I think the red is too bright.  I found some pics on Google, and as far as I can tell, just about any shade of rust would work as well, above and below the water line.

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Posted by Rick Martin on Friday, September 28, 2007 10:21 PM
Reply to PeeWee: will try to get some pics. Just got the kit and there's not much too it but the molding looks pretty clean. Its molded in black but the instructions call for dark sea blue for the hull and like most modern subs theres no other color for the area below the waterline. I think I may go with the color recommendations as they are with a bit of rust here and there. Once I get it done will try to send in some pictures. That will be a first for me too. Thanks for the encouragement.  Little nervous about the K-19 (widowmaker)--If I may, a little sea story for you....When I reported for duty to Commander, Oceanographic Systems Command in Norfolk, VA as an E-6 Radioman I was told to read Hunt For Red October as that would give me plenty of insight into what the command mission was. As it turned out I reported in for duty about a year after the K19 incident. The people in charge told me all about it. (I know how many scuttling charges the crew used to keep the sub from falling into our hands.) If you build your K19 and it starts to "glow' start to worry.   Rick Martin
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Posted by Rick Martin on Friday, September 28, 2007 10:41 PM
PeeWee just wanted to correct my post to ya from a few minutes ago.   The seastory is correct except the Soviet submarine in my story was not K19 but instead K219 which suffered a catastrophic explosion on Oct 6, 1986 NE of Bermuda--she was a nuclear powered "Yankee" class boat and there were casualties. The skipper scuttled the boat but refused any assistance from anyone except the Red Navy. The fact the incident occured just NE of Bermuda is the scary part. We tracked these guys all the time and they often came much closer to the states than Bermuda. I reported to Ocean Systems Command just a month and a half after the incident----Rick Martin
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Posted by PeeweeBiggs on Wednesday, October 3, 2007 2:03 AM
 hwells wrote:

Hi Peewee.  I'm working on the K-19 as we speak.  I used Tamiya red, X-7 acrylic for the lower hull and Floquil Oily Black for the upper part.  Personnally, I think the red is too bright.  I found some pics on Google, and as far as I can tell, just about any shade of rust would work as well, above and below the water line.

Henry

 

Hi, Henry.  If you take a photo please post it. To give me an idea or two.

 

Thanks 

 

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Posted by PeeweeBiggs on Wednesday, October 3, 2007 2:08 AM

 Rick Martin wrote:
Reply to PeeWee: will try to get some pics. Just got the kit and there's not much too it but the molding looks pretty clean. Its molded in black but the instructions call for dark sea blue for the hull and like most modern subs theres no other color for the area below the waterline. I think I may go with the color recommendations as they are with a bit of rust here and there. Once I get it done will try to send in some pictures. That will be a first for me too. Thanks for the encouragement.  Little nervous about the K-19 (widowmaker)--If I may, a little sea story for you....When I reported for duty to Commander, Oceanographic Systems Command in Norfolk, VA as an E-6 Radioman I was told to read Hunt For Red October as that would give me plenty of insight into what the command mission was. As it turned out I reported in for duty about a year after the K19 incident. The people in charge told me all about it. (I know how many scuttling charges the crew used to keep the sub from falling into our hands.) If you build your K19 and it starts to "glow' start to worry.   Rick Martin

I saw both movies. Hunt for Red October and K-19. Both are good movies. I have be aboard a Russian sub, I mean all over it above and below deck, but I do not recall what the name of it was. One of the most interesting things, and I did look through the periscope by the way, was the torpedos..I am sure they were not armed or active but they were there on the racks was that each had printed on them "CCCP" in bright red. I think I have a few photos somewhere in my computer archives. I will try to post them soon.

 

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Posted by PeeweeBiggs on Wednesday, October 3, 2007 2:15 AM

I did find some information. This is the exact Russki boat that I was aboard. I now wonder if there is a model somewhere of this Foxtrot class boat?

The Foxtrot class submarine b-39 (code name Cobra) was built at the Sudomekh Shipyards just outside Leningrad, now St. Petersburg. Construction was started in 1972, and she was commissioned into the Soviet Navy in 1974. Upon being commissioned the Cobra sailed out into the North Sea where she then turned south for a secret voyage down the coast and around the southern tip of Africa, into the Indian Ocean and through the Sea of Japan until she arrived at her assigned home port of Vladivostok, home of the powerful Soviet Pacific Fleet.

During her twenty year career, the Cobra regularly patrolled in the Arctic, Pacific and Indian Oceans ranging as far east as the Pacific coast of North America. Although intrusions into the USA and Canadian territorial waters were strictly forbidden by international treaty, rumors of such occurrences persist to this day. Indeed, both sides in the "Cold War" considered submarines as the perfect espionage tool.

The Foxtrot Class Attack Submarine was the largest and most successful class of non-nuclear submarines built by the Soviet/Russian Navy. In all, 79 Foxtrots were built between 1958-1984. This 284-foot stealth fighting machine spent its 20 year life prowling the oceans on its secret "cold war" missions.

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