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Super glue as a seam filler?

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Super glue as a seam filler?
Posted by SubarooMike on Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:08 PM

Hello modelers!   

 How do you guys use super glue as a seam filler?  I would imagine it would be difficult to sand. And the styrene around it is much softer so I would assume you would do a lot of damage trying to sand it.  If anyone could fill me in and help me out, I would truly appreciate it! 

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Posted by Marcus McBean on Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:42 PM

It good for very small holes, dents or narrow seams but once it cured it is very hard to sand down.  I wait until it dries (but not cured) and then sand.  There are super glues just for gap filling.

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:29 PM

My experience is the same as Marcus'.  I wait only about 1/2 hour to 1 hour (depending on how much you need to apply), then start sanding.  It makes things a whole lot easier than letting it dry overnight.

Good luck.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:35 PM

I also find that scrapping with the back side of an Exacto blade helps knock a supper glue seam down, then finish with sanding Just don't go to far.

I've been doing that procedure for years.

Steve

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Posted by mitsdude on Thursday, November 13, 2014 10:09 PM

I've never had much luck sanding dried super glue. Even when I try within 30-60 minutes.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, November 13, 2014 10:45 PM

It's not the ideal seam filler.

Steve

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Posted by tomwatkins45 on Friday, November 14, 2014 6:20 AM

There is a trick to it that I learned here on the Forum a while back. Only fill about two inches or less of the seam at a time. I use Zap a Gap medium CA applied with a rounded toothpick. Then I hit the CA with accelerator  ( I've got a big bottle of liquid accelerator from MicroMark) applied with a micro brush. Sand immediately with successively finer grades of sanding sticks. The CA will be set hard enough to sand but not  so hard as to be difficult.

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Posted by hypertex on Friday, November 14, 2014 7:22 AM

All super glues are not alike, so generalizing isn't very helpful. Personally, I've never had the experience of the glue being harder than the plastic. The medium and thick viscosity glues have a filler, which is usually PMMA (the same acrylic polymer found in Plexiglass). I think this filler is responsible for the hardness complaints--PMMA is a very hard plastic.

So why haven't I had a problem with the stuff being too hard? I use the thin stuff for seam filling--it has no filler. For bigger gaps, I start with putty or strip styrene, but then I top it off with some thin CA. Then I sand it smooth as soon as it dries (the thin stuff dries really fast, so I don't use any kicker).

The thin stuff seems to flow into small nooks and crannies better than the thicker stuff. It also sits down flatter on the surface, which means I don't have to sand as much. I save my medium CA for sticking stuff together.

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Posted by Marcus McBean on Friday, November 14, 2014 9:16 AM

Well I have.  I used the Micro-mark CA glue once on a seam and left it over night.  I ended up using a metal file on it.  It was so hard the sand stick just slide without biting into it.  I don't let sit that long anymore.

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, November 14, 2014 9:34 AM

If you are filling a small enough gap in a seam, you may be able to apply it smooth enough that you don't need to sand it.  Also, for smoothing seams, I use a flat needle file- it is agressive enough to cut both the superglue AND the styrene, yet fine enough that primer will fill any tiny residual scratches.  Usually the result is great.  Those files are equivalent to very fine sandpaper as far as smoothness, but as agressive in removing material as coarse sandpaper.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by BarrettDuke on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:09 PM

WOW. I have never had this experience. I use Zap-a-Gap to join seams all the time. I use it on the seams of gun barrels and other long straight runs. I run a bead along each edge with a toothpick, squeeze the pieces together so a little oozes out and let it set, then sand whenever I get around to it. days later sometimes. The super glue sands right down, and the seam is almost completely filled. Follow it up with some Mr. Surfacer 500 and the seam is completely gone. I haven't found anything that works better.

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Posted by Texgunner on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:44 PM

I dunno, I've had the super glue get as hard as Chinese arithmetic when I've waited a day or so.  Now I try to get on it much quicker...Big Smile

Gary


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