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P-51 exhaust painting
Posted by falconmod on Friday, November 16, 2018 6:49 AM

How would you suggest I get a accurate looking mustang exhaust?  base coat silver then rust paint over that?  not sure how to get  realistic looking exhaust stacks.

John

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Posted by gregbale on Friday, November 16, 2018 7:11 AM

I'd nix the rust completely. They start out a dull silvery steel grey---which I use as my base-coat---then turn shades of bronze and dark brown with heat. Dry-brushing with a couple different tones gives a nice effect, with a wash of black or brown to 'pop' the structural detail.

Check the ample color photos available, to get a good guide as to how to proceed.

Good luck!

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, November 16, 2018 9:05 AM

I am wondering why, since we have a forum just for painting and airbrushing, we are seeing painting questions all over the FSM forums.  Not to criticise the OP, but I really do think that we optimize forums when we stick to the catagories FSM has provided.  Otherwise, the answers get scattered over many forums, and the OPs may miss some good answers.  Today there were three paint threads in the general models forum, and paint threads in the tools, techniques and references area.

That being said, my technique for steel exhausts is to start with a dark gray coat, then dry brush steel, rust, and maybe some light red and blue stains.  Everything other than the base coat should just be a very light tint coat.

 

 

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Posted by falconmod on Friday, November 16, 2018 9:16 AM

Would it have been more acceptable to have said "techniques needed to produce a accurate looking exhaust on a P-51" for the title?    I'm just looking for a good way to make it look real!

 

John

On the Bench: 1/72 Ki-67, 1/48 T-38

1/144 AC-130, 1/72 AV-8A Harrier

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Posted by falconmod on Friday, November 16, 2018 9:21 AM

gregbale

I'd nix the rust completely. They start out a dull silvery steel grey---which I use as my base-coat---then turn shades of bronze and dark brown with heat. Dry-brushing with a couple different tones gives a nice effect, with a wash of black or brown to 'pop' the structural detail.

Check the ample color photos available, to get a good guide as to how to proceed.

Good luck!

 

Thanks Greg

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1/144 AC-130, 1/72 AV-8A Harrier

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Friday, November 16, 2018 10:34 AM

Don Stauffer

I am wondering why, since we have a forum just for painting and airbrushing, we are seeing painting questions all over the FSM forums.  Not to criticise the OP, but I really do think that we optimize forums when we stick to the catagories FSM has provided.  Otherwise, the answers get scattered over many forums, and the OPs may miss some good answers.  Today there were three paint threads in the general models forum, and paint threads in the tools, techniques and references area.

 

 

If you re-read the question the OP is asking is really not a painting question but a TECHNIQUE question. I see no harm of the OP posted this on this thread.

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Posted by Greg on Friday, November 16, 2018 10:43 AM

FSM has turned so quiet, I get excited to see a new post period.

I learn something every day here.

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Friday, November 16, 2018 2:45 PM

Greg -

There is one color I use on ocassion for exhaust pieces - Gunze Red Steel. Sometimes I'll throw a bit of Black Detail wash to give it a weathered look.

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Posted by mawright20 on Friday, November 16, 2018 7:23 PM
Don, I like your ideas.....Mike
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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, November 17, 2018 1:10 AM

Not so much rust as a brownish discoloration of the steel stacks....

 

 

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Saturday, November 17, 2018 6:48 AM

stikpusher

Not so much rust as a brownish discoloration of the steel stacks....

 

 

 

I agree.  I use the rust color as a patina color, not as actual rust.  I sometimes us both a brighter red and blue.  In drybrushing, variations in the thickness of colors does not make it look just purple. 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by JohnnyK on Tuesday, December 4, 2018 11:18 PM

I would search the Internet for images of P-51 exhaust stacks. The colors vary a lot. It seems like the most common color is a blackened brown color on older planes and a blackened silver color on newer planes.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, December 5, 2018 9:06 AM

JohnnyK

I would search the Internet for images of P-51 exhaust stacks. The colors vary a lot. It seems like the most common color is a blackened brown color on older planes and a blackened silver color on newer planes.

 

Good observation.  I am amazed at how many people dry to duplicate effects like that without first finding pictures or looking at real planes.  They just assume what things look like.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, December 6, 2018 10:32 AM

I couldn't find a good picture of a P-51 exhaust, but here is a picture of a B-17 exhaust. The basic color is rust with dark brown, dark gray and black areas on top.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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