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A little too much pledge coat
Posted by Mrchntmarine on Saturday, March 09, 2019 4:10 PM

So i guess i got a lttle heavy handed on my last coat and now have some drip lines on the hull side.  Can anyone give an idea of how to remedy the line?  I dont want to strip it - again - but i think if i reactivate it by brushing, ill smear it and leave brush lines.  Not sure how to get it smoothe again.

 

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Saturday, March 09, 2019 4:34 PM

Water....

 

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Posted by Mrchntmarine on Saturday, March 09, 2019 4:46 PM

BlackSheepTwoOneFour

Water....

 

 

 
So the PFC is already dried.  Should i spray the water, rub it on and let it sit?  Rub water with a damp cloth until it disappears then respray or would i not have to?  
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Posted by Jay Jay on Saturday, March 09, 2019 5:17 PM

Dampen a q-tip ( cotton bud)  with water and keep rubbing the affected area. How much water and rubbing depends on the thickness of the PFC.  it's a trial and error method.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Mrchntmarine on Saturday, March 09, 2019 5:39 PM

Jay Jay

Dampen a q-tip ( cotton bud)  with water and keep rubbing the affected area. How much water and rubbing depends on the thickness of the PFC.  it's a trial and error method.

 

Tks.  Ill give it a try and report back.  Ill first have to wait for the dec to dry.  have a nice weekend.

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Saturday, March 09, 2019 7:37 PM

Windex, or a mixture of ammonia and water will dissolve that junk.

Computer, did we bring batteries?.....Computer?

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, March 09, 2019 9:39 PM

Good grief, no one has asked- what is the paint under the Pledge?

If it's acrylic, windex will attack that too.

Water won't do any good.

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Posted by Greg on Sunday, March 10, 2019 10:01 AM

Cadet Chuck
that junk

+1

And I agree with GMorrison, it depends on what is under the floor polish.

Hope you get this sorted out. Drips are not fun. Been there, done that.

-Greg

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Posted by Rambo on Sunday, March 10, 2019 11:25 AM

Maybe lightly sanding the area with 1000grit or higher. Then apply more clear to the area. But future is meant for the floor not a model. I've tried using it before as a clear coat I just didn't like it, I've still use it to dip clear parts but probably won't on the next build.

Clint

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Posted by Mrchntmarine on Sunday, March 10, 2019 12:51 PM

so i have acrylic under the pledge.  i tried rubbing alcohol to smooth out a previous botch and i got an even bigger one - it stripped everyting.....  oh well, live an learn.

 

not sure what to do with these 2 small drips though......

 

PS. O, and i see the pictures are not showing again.  UGH......  

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Posted by Mrchntmarine on Sunday, March 10, 2019 12:54 PM

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Posted by Tojo72 on Sunday, March 10, 2019 2:02 PM
Just a thought for next time,if it's only a few decals,there is no need to spray the entire model,just do where you will be decaling,less chance for error,and the gloss area will blend when you apply your flat coat.

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, March 10, 2019 2:31 PM

If it were me, not saying you should, I‘d try this: I have repaired many a botched paint job by sanding the affected area and then respray it. I have not tried it on Future but, I don’t see why it wouldn't work. If you try it, sand with a very fine grit and only sand until the glob is flattened. You’d need to be careful not to sand through to the paint. Then, wipe it clean, and respray that area trying to blend it. My hope would be that respraying would blend things and remove the dull finish from sanding. I can’t say for certain it would not make things worse. Sometimes it’s hard to blend clear gloss coats once a previous  coat has dried. Like I said, I have not tried it on Future. If you apply a final flat it could help to  blend any remaining variences or demarcation of gloss.

 

 

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Posted by Mrchntmarine on Sunday, March 10, 2019 3:50 PM
Tks all. Gonna mess around with it maybe the next few days and will report back. Also, I decided to make the whole model gloss by using pledge that’s why it’s like this. Wanted to try something a little different.
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Posted by plasticjunkie on Sunday, March 10, 2019 6:17 PM

Wish I would have seen this sooner. Those drips are easily repaired by letting the Future cure for at least a week. Sand the affected area till the ridge is gone but don’t flip when the sanded area turns white. After the sanding is feathered and completed, re spray or hand brush the Future. I don’t spray it but hand brush it all the time. It self levels and leaves no brush marks. Let it cure for a good week and spray clear flat. I use clear flat lacquer over the  cured Future without a problem.

 

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Posted by Mrchntmarine on Sunday, March 17, 2019 1:01 PM

plasticjunkie

Wish I would have seen this sooner. Those drips are easily repaired by letting the Future cure for at least a week. Sand the affected area till the ridge is gone but don’t flip when the sanded area turns white. After the sanding is feathered and completed, re spray or hand brush the Future. I don’t spray it but hand brush it all the time. It self levels and leaves no brush marks. Let it cure for a good week and spray clear flat. I use clear flat lacquer over the  cured Future without a problem.

 

 

tks again. Took your suggestion and it’s better I think. used 1500 sandpaper, cleaned it up with water, dried and then brushed more on. All done for now. 

   

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Sunday, March 17, 2019 1:13 PM

Mrchntmarine

 

 
plasticjunkie

Wish I would have seen this sooner. Those drips are easily repaired by letting the Future cure for at least a week. Sand the affected area till the ridge is gone but don’t flip when the sanded area turns white. After the sanding is feathered and completed, re spray or hand brush the Future. I don’t spray it but hand brush it all the time. It self levels and leaves no brush marks. Let it cure for a good week and spray clear flat. I use clear flat lacquer over the  cured Future without a problem.

 

 

 

 

tks again. Took your suggestion and it’s better I think. used 1500 sandpaper, cleaned it up with water, dried and then brushed more on. All done for now. 

   

 

Hey you are welcome and it looks good from here. Yes

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Posted by Wilbur Wright on Sunday, March 17, 2019 11:04 PM

No one should use Windex for this if the underpaint is acrylic.  It may take to the whole thing down to the bare styrene. FYI If any other people have "Future" problems.

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Posted by Greg on Monday, March 18, 2019 10:23 AM

Good advice from plasticjunkie, your repair looks very good. Yes

I'm glad it all worked out for you.

-Greg

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Posted by Silver on Saturday, May 04, 2019 1:46 PM

pledge is a thing of the past.Try airbrushing “ Gauzy Shine Enchancer”.Its a good acrylic  gloss .Drying fast within min’s.Google it.

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, May 04, 2019 5:01 PM

Silver

pledge is a thing of the past.Try airbrushing “ Gauzy Shine Enchancer”.Its a good acrylic  gloss .Drying fast within min’s.Google it.

 

Nice, but it costs $ 75.00 minimum for 750 ml. Pledge costs about $ 5.00 for the same quantity.

Or, put another way, the 100 ml or so of Pledge I've used from my current bottle of it cost me $ 0.80. A bottle of the nice stuff costs $ 10.00.

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Posted by keavdog on Saturday, May 04, 2019 5:54 PM

Still a big future fan.  Good stuff and dirt cheap.  Also had issues recently with alclad gloss - first time use.  Seems future is inert when it comes to paint interaction.  

Thanks,

John

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, May 04, 2019 6:37 PM

The only problem I've had with interaction is with decal solvents.

Yes, a better quality spray acrylic finish is preferred, Silver is right. Future will definitely run into corners and drip without some care taken to wick it with absorbent paper.

But it is inexpensive.

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Posted by Silver on Saturday, May 04, 2019 8:00 PM

“Bingo” Decal solutions are bad for Future.Anyway, good luck.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Saturday, May 04, 2019 9:06 PM

Silver

“Bingo” Decal solutions are bad for Future.Anyway, good luck.

 

 

I have been using Future for well over 20 years and the ONLY time I got a reaction from decal setting solutions was from the Future not being cured.  I wait at least 3 days and NEVER had a single issue even using Solvaset which is VERY strong.

I know Future works for me so no sense fixing something that is not broken and is VERY cost efficient (cheap compared to other products).

I not only use Future for glossing up finishes for decal prep but it has other uses too:

It hides scratches on clear parts.

Can be mixed with compatible acrylic paints as a thinner/glossing agent specially in Craft paints.

Glues together clear parts.

Great for making wet mud and other wet effects for dios.

Makes realistic IP instrument glass faces.

Can be used to attach stubburn decals that curl up.

Decal applied over wet Future eliminates silvering.

Great for hiding thick decal film edges.  Takes several applications but it works at getting rid of that "step"edge.

 

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Posted by keavdog on Sunday, May 05, 2019 12:39 AM

You and me plasticjunkie- future sales team Big Smile

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Tickmagnet on Sunday, May 05, 2019 7:09 AM

Ditto plasticjunkie.

 

 

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Posted by Mark Lookabaugh on Sunday, May 05, 2019 8:39 AM

Tojo72
Just a thought for next time,if it's only a few decals,there is no need to spray the entire model,just do where you will be decaling,less chance for error,and the gloss area will blend when you apply your flat coat.
 

Use spotty gloss at your own risk.  I have a couple of models sitting around that demonstrate this doesn't always work.  For whatever reason, the under gloss coat still shows a clear difference between the areas that were applied, and those that weren't, even with a nice thick dull coat.  You might verify on an extra bit of sprue first before jumping in.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Sunday, May 05, 2019 3:09 PM

Mark Lookabaugh

 

 
Tojo72
Just a thought for next time,if it's only a few decals,there is no need to spray the entire model,just do where you will be decaling,less chance for error,and the gloss area will blend when you apply your flat coat.
 

 

 

Use spotty gloss at your own risk.  I have a couple of models sitting around that demonstrate this doesn't always work.  For whatever reason, the under gloss coat still shows a clear difference between the areas that were applied, and those that weren't, even with a nice thick dull coat.  You might verify on an extra bit of sprue first before jumping in.

 

I agree with Mark. Sometimes the finish is different between the two so I spray the entire model just in case.

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Posted by Mrchntmarine on Sunday, May 05, 2019 3:26 PM

Well I’m glad I posted !  Always learning. Have to say, the little I’ve been doing this I’ve had good luck with PFC - baring this issue and one other. I’m sure my inexperience was the cause. For the cost, a good product with many uses. 

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