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How To: Accelerator and Super Glue

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How To: Accelerator and Super Glue
Posted by ronl on Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:58 AM
I have Googled this subject and have found nothing that really answers my question.  How do you use super glue and accelerator together?  I have attempted it's use, but what a mess!  I have a bottle of Testor's Accelerator.
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Posted by ajlafleche on Sunday, August 23, 2009 11:35 AM
I don't knowhow testor's suggests its product's use. I use Zip-Kicker. Whil lit comes with a spray bottle, I toss the sprayer away. I apply super glue (Zap-A-Gap) and then use a toothpick, piece of wire or a techniclpencil  to put a tiny drop on the glue.

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Posted by the doog on Sunday, August 23, 2009 10:27 PM
 ajlafleche wrote:
I don't knowhow testor's suggests its product's use. I use Zip-Kicker. Whil lit comes with a spray bottle, I toss the sprayer away. I apply super glue (Zap-A-Gap) and then use a toothpick, piece of wire or a techniclpencil  to put a tiny drop on the glue.
Exactly what I do too--forget the messy sprayer--I just use the siphon tube that is attached to the sprayer inside the bottle and let some accelerator drop onto the glued part.
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Posted by ronl on Monday, August 24, 2009 4:08 PM
Just to be clear, do you drop the accelerator on after the two parts are joined together?
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Posted by Phil_H on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 3:13 AM

Yes, that is correct - apply the accellerator after the two parts are joined.

If you apply the accellerator to the glue before joining, it (the glue) will instantly cure in a lump.

If you apply the accellerator to the unglued side of the join and then apply the part with the glue on it, it will set up before you have a chance to properly align the part.

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Posted by robiwon on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:49 AM

Also keep in mind that if you use the spray, even though the residue may dry and dissapear, the kicker is till active. Building my X-Wing I used the spray can of Kicker since I was gluing large areas. When I would go to attach a piece to, say the wing, where I had used kicker a few minutes before, the glue would cure instantly! So be mindful of surronding areas when using Kicker.

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Posted by ronl on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:16 AM
Got It - Thanks Guys - a MAJOR help!!!!!
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Posted by jimbot58 on Thursday, September 3, 2009 12:45 AM
I apply the glue first and then use a small brush to touch a small amount of the accelerator NEAR the joint and allow it to run to the glue. Don't touch the glue it self as you will glob up your brush. Micro brushes work great for tiny parts. Like these other guys said, don't use the sprayer that comes with it. Also, you can be cheaper by bying the the larger bottle and not that little tiny bottle of Testors.

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Posted by batai37 on Sunday, September 6, 2009 1:46 AM

A really useful tool I've found is a "mini-loop applicator" they have over at Micromark

http://www.micromark.com/MINI-LOOP-APPLICATOR,7807.html

This is actually a very small surgical curette, (repackaged and marked up as a hobby tool like so many of our tools), and one side is slightly sharp...so it can double as a small scraping tool as well. If you gunk it up, just run a needle through it.

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Posted by AdrianUK on Sunday, December 18, 2011 4:18 PM

Hi,

I just got hold of a can of this Zip Kicker, is it possible to decant it as it dosent have anything like a tube applicator with it so if I spray it I get too much coverage?

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Posted by robtmelvin on Sunday, December 18, 2011 5:35 PM

I use an old paint brush to dab on the "kicker" after the CA has been applied and the part if situated where I want it.  Works great.

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Posted by AdrianUK on Sunday, December 18, 2011 5:39 PM

So do I spray some into a container to then dip my brush into?

Sorry for the most likely questions

 

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, December 19, 2011 9:23 AM

I made a tool that I use to apply both CA AND the accelerator.  I took a large sewing needle and mounted the point into a length of dowel.  Then I ground the eye of the needle in half with a dremel tool and thin abrasive disk, leaving a small fork shape.  The fork holds a drop of glue or accelerator.  When used for glue, there is always residue left on- I clean it off with an X-acto knife.  When used for the accelerator the residue evaporates and self cleans.  Just do not use it for glue again for a couple of minutes.

 

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Posted by robtmelvin on Monday, December 19, 2011 9:37 AM

Don, I use a technique for cleaning an identical tool I made for applying CA.  I've never tried using to apply kicker, but I will now.  As I'm sure you know, dried CA has a tendency to build up on the tip.  I've discovered that holding the tip in the flame of a Bic lighter will almost instantly burn off the excess CA.  I then take a little fine sand paper and remove the carbon.  This might also work for burning off the kicker.

Just a thought.

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Posted by AdrianUK on Monday, December 19, 2011 11:41 AM

I understand about the appicator, it's just that the Zip Kicker I have is in an aerosol can, so can I spray some into a container and then dip into it to apply it to the area I want to use it?

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, December 20, 2011 9:51 AM

AdrianUK

I understand about the appicator, it's just that the Zip Kicker I have is in an aerosol can, so can I spray some into a container and then dip into it to apply it to the area I want to use it?

I use CA in a non aerosol sprayer, a manual sprayer.  If one presses the cap slow enough, the stuff just dribbles out, and I can press the applicator tip near the spray opening so that the stuff just runs down on the applicator.

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Posted by SHBogeyman on Wednesday, December 21, 2011 1:18 PM

The spray they are talking about is a pump button sprayer. Not a pressurized spray can. The spray cans are used on large areas on RC planes, cars, etc. You can buy kicker in a bottler with a pump sprayer or just a screw top.

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Posted by AdrianUK on Wednesday, December 21, 2011 4:10 PM

I guess I have bought the spray can for nothing, oh well, went and bought the bottle to use as well :)

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