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Ugh math and modelling..calculating masks for a taper

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Posted by DoogsATX on Friday, February 17, 2012 9:41 AM

I read somewhere to get a circle cutter, cut a circle, then cut a slightly smaller one inside its diameter. That'll give you a thing ring of tape that'll conform much better around a conic section. 

Have yet to try it, though...and I've got two /148 500-lb bombs I need to stripe up, myself. 

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, February 17, 2012 9:39 AM

ditto.  I have been trying to derive or find that formula for a long while. I used to be good in trig, but that is an excellent reference!

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: Calgary
Posted by MaxPower on Friday, February 17, 2012 9:22 AM

Great link! *bookmarked*

I tried measuring the diameter and multiplying it by 3.14 and then setting the compass to that measurement. I'd draw the line on tape with the compass and then cut it out. It didn't seem to go on to my bombs as a straight line though.

I did come up with a template that was close enough, and I've finished painting the bombs and they are close enough! I'm OK with the result I just still wanted to know the steps to actually figure it out! The cone calculator worked unfortunately it has minimum sizes and of course my project was to small. It will be perfect for the nose of an airplane though!!

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Posted by Blueline on Wednesday, February 15, 2012 8:27 AM

I think what your trying to do is create a cone.  Try this link.  It might help.

http://www.red-bag.com/engintools/calccone.php

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  • From: SE Pennsylvania
Posted by padakr on Tuesday, February 14, 2012 3:53 PM

I understand better.  I was thinking of a simple transition from one color to another.  A stripe would be very difficult with the circle template.

If you can come up with a jig to hold the piece and be able to rotate it around the axis, you might be able to spin and carefully paint the line.  Sort of like a lathe.

Paul

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  • From: Calgary
Posted by MaxPower on Tuesday, February 14, 2012 7:34 AM

Both great work a rounds!

In my case with these bombs though I've already painted the yellow of the stripe so I want to use one piece of tape and then shoot the olive drab. The circle template would be great if I was doing one of, but I have 12.

I did manage to get a template to cut tape with in the end. It's close enough but that's what got my curious. There has to be a precise way of calculating this through math and I really want to learn it! To satisfy my curiosity as much as anything!

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  • From: SE Pennsylvania
Posted by padakr on Tuesday, February 14, 2012 6:30 AM

Buy a circle template from a craft store.  Find the right size hole to stick the nose through and cover all the others. 

Paul

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  • From: Scotland
Posted by Milairjunkie on Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:52 AM

If you cut your tape down so it's quite narrow it should conform alright, then use broader tape to finish up - or use flexible fine-line tape like 3M produce.

Another method is to paint the tip, then "mask" with heat-shrink tubing before painting the remainder.

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  • From: Calgary
Ugh math and modelling..calculating masks for a taper
Posted by MaxPower on Monday, February 13, 2012 11:28 PM

 

How can I calculate the curve of tape so it goes on straight with no edges lifting around a curved or tapered surface, such as the nose of a bomb?

I need to mask of the yellow lines on 12each MK82 bombs. I'm going to make a template to cut the tape with so I get all 12 the same. I just kind of guessed at the curve a couple times but it's just not there.

I don't know if I need to measure the circumference or figure out the radius and then translate that to a compass somehow? I figured I'd need to set the points of the compass a calculated distance apart, just not sure how to get there. I thought this information could come in handy for me and I'm sure others!

Anybody who knows their way around math (I suck) want to jump in here?

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