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Dot Filters
Posted by AndrewW on Monday, January 7, 2013 6:48 AM

A quick question for folks out there who have played with this technique, I've just started experimenting myself.  I've read two conflicting bits of information, one being that they are applied over a flat coat (so the oils have something to bite into, and don't just smear around like a wash) and the other that they are applied over gloss coat. 

Would this be varied as to the affect one is trying to achieve (i.e. a miscolored panel vs. a streak?) and what do you folks do when dot filtering?

My normal technique is prime, acryl paint, acryl gloss, decal or mask and paint, acryl gloss, oil pin wash.  This next step is the point where I'm unclear for dot filtering.  Or do I want to be filtering before my pin wash?  My last step is usually an acryl clear coat followed by an enamel flat coat (I find the enamels seal everything up and harden up very nicely).

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  • From: Western North Carolina
Posted by Tojo72 on Monday, January 7, 2013 2:51 PM

I believe there are  two schools of thought,check these out :

cs.finescale.com/.../84424.aspx  

cs.finescale.com/.../1547176.aspx   

 

I think Bill and the Doog use different techniques with good results

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Posted by AndrewW on Monday, January 7, 2013 3:59 PM

Tojo,

Thank you.  I'd found the first link in a search, and see the Doog had mentioned flat coats under the filter, which is what I'd thought originally.  I'd not seen that second discussion, so thank you for that.  I only ask as when googling around for information, people had suggested filtering over gloss coats, and I've seen that in other discussions.  I would think this would only smear the oils around, and not let them really grab into anything, giving less control over the effect.  I asked as I was wondering what other folks do, gloss or flat, but I think I will give it a go over flat coat for more control, as I've not really experimented with the effect a whole lot before.  I also see on google a lot of warning against filtering over multicolored camo schemes, though I've seen it done and that's what I plan to do, though carefully.  I am hoping to use this to enhance pre-shading.

Thanks again.

Life is hard, it's even harder when you're stupid - John Wayne.


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  • From: Western North Carolina
Posted by Tojo72 on Monday, January 7, 2013 4:07 PM

the times that I tried it,I used it on a flat finish myself

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Posted by AndrewW on Monday, January 7, 2013 5:19 PM

Thanks, Tojo, that was what I was wondering.  Just wanted to know other people did it that way too, lets me know I'm on the right path.

Life is hard, it's even harder when you're stupid - John Wayne.


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  • From: Phoenix, AZ
Posted by Fly-n-hi on Monday, January 7, 2013 7:13 PM

It really needs to be done on a flat finish or you'll end up wiping all of the oil off...which is fine in the case of a panel line wash.

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  • From: MN
Posted by Nathan T on Monday, January 7, 2013 10:40 PM

If you can look up Chukw's build of the me410. He has good wip pics of dot filters, and IIRC he does it over a coat of future. I'd keep in mind you might want your finished effect much subtler on an aircraft than a tank or armor build. So it wouldn't hurt to try it over a gloss coat, so if you screw up, you'll be able to wipe it off easily.

 

 

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Posted by AndrewW on Tuesday, January 8, 2013 2:55 PM

True, Nathan, that may be a way to try it.  If that doesn't work, I suppose I could always go to semi gloss and try that.  Thanks all for the answers.

Life is hard, it's even harder when you're stupid - John Wayne.


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  • From: MN
Posted by Nathan T on Tuesday, January 8, 2013 5:42 PM

Here's Chuckw's 410 thread. Hope it helps:

cs.finescale.com/.../111699.aspx

 

 

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