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    November 2012
Flat Future
Posted by V4EVER on Friday, February 15, 2013 6:47 PM

Hi, I've been building a B-17F 1:48 for a few months now am almost (FINIALLLLLYYY) done it. I'm going to add silver bits of chipped paint, as was common, but I then want to apply a coat of future to the coat to protect it.  I use Walther decal solvent for my models, but at times it seems to take away the paint, hence the coat of future. How can I dull the future finish. I've got Tamiya clear flat, in a small pot and spray can. However I've heard a few bad stories about useing Tamiya Flat clear especially on decals, any help would be great. So lastly my formula is: 1 coat of future+ decals and pastel wash+ last coat of Future+ clear coat finish= I hope it works

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Saturday, February 16, 2013 9:55 AM

Remember, you must apply decals to a glossy surface.  So you do not want to apply a dull coat until after you finish applying the decals.  Decal solvent as opposed to setting solution is indeed quite strong and can affect some paints (although, not all).  Try using setting solution instead of solvent.  Use solvent only if absolutely needed.  However, I know folks who use decal solvent over future and say it works.  Also, I believe Tamiya clears are acrylics, and should be okay over future.  You might try a test by painting a piece of scrap plastic, putting future over it, and  then trying the clear flat over that.  Just allow the future to dry a day or two.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

  • Member since
    April 2009
  • From: Longmont, Colorado
Posted by Cadet Chuck on Saturday, February 16, 2013 3:32 PM

And for best results, use the flat clear that comes in little bottles, thinned and applied with your airbrush..  Don't use those spray cans- it comes out like a fire hose and is very easy to create runs and curtains on your model.

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

  • Member since
    January 2012
  • From: Hatfield
Posted by Misty on Saturday, February 16, 2013 3:40 PM

i was not aware tamiya did a flat clear. The DO do a flat clear BASE which is used for mixing with a gloss paint in various ratios to obtain different levels of ...erm... flatness. this "base" is not supposed to be used on its own,

I may be wrong of course.

i think this base can also be mixed with future (both acrylic after all) again i could be wrong. more googling required.

  • Member since
    August 2005
  • From: Sydney, Australia
Posted by Phil_H on Saturday, February 16, 2013 4:54 PM

talentless
i was not aware tamiya did a flat clear. The DO do a flat clear BASE which is used for mixing with a gloss paint in various ratios to obtain different levels of ...erm... flatness. this "base" is not supposed to be used on its own,

XF-86 Flat Clear. It's been available for about a year or so, but I haven't tried it so I'm not familiar with it. As far as I'm aware, it's not the same as the flat base (X-21). Just thin and go.

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    January 2012
  • From: Hatfield
Posted by Misty on Sunday, February 17, 2013 10:43 AM

I stand corrected, assuming he was actually using xf-86 and not the base, i have read posts where ppl didnt know about the base. Think ill get the xf-86 and give it a try, cheers!

  • Member since
    April 2010
Posted by Theuns on Monday, February 18, 2013 11:19 AM

I use Tamiya flat base mixed to a MAX of about 25-30% to Future for a flat/satin clear over my models. I have not had any hassles with it over the decals, I did however once had the future gloss coat (before decals) affected and softened by to much aplication of micro sol.

If you go for the flatbased mixed future, be very carefull not to spray to mush and let it pool in pannellines ect as it will leave white marks , just nice wet coats to cover the model.

Theuns

  • Member since
    January 2012
  • From: this room
Posted by modelsheek91 on Wednesday, February 20, 2013 1:18 PM

I have had some experience with mixing Tamiya Flat Base and Future. Use caution because I have had some of my airplanes go a bitg white because of it.

On the bench:

Too much

In the hangar:

Again....too much

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