SEARCH FINESCALE.COM

Enter keywords or a search phrase below:

To fill the gap between the canopy clear part and the canopy frame...

1073 views
16 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    June, 2017
  • From: Winter Park, FL
To fill the gap between the canopy clear part and the canopy frame...
Posted by fotofrank on Sunday, August 12, 2018 8:54 AM

I have three 1/48 scale Monogram T-28's that I work on occasionally. They are kind of fillers between bigger projects. Right now the one I have in production is an Air Force T-28A, with the two-bladed propeller. Now these kits came out in the 60's so fit and finish are only so-so. I glued the clear canopy pieces on yesterday and I am getting ready to mask the canopy. Before I mask, I need to fill the space between the clear part and the canopy frame. Like I said, fit is so-so. I know that I can use white glue to fill the space but I have found on another build that the white glue can be pulled off when the masking tape is removed. What can I use to fill the space that will not pull free when the masking tape comes off?


OK. On the bench:

Way too much to build in one lifetime...

  • Member since
    September, 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, August 12, 2018 9:48 AM

Is the clear part still loose? Try to sand the edges a little to improve the fit.

It's a tough spot because there should be a step or edge there, and adding filler just makes it blobby.

  • Member since
    March, 2015
Posted by JohnnyK on Sunday, August 12, 2018 9:50 AM

Why are  you attaching the canopy to the fuselage before you paint and complete the model? Ususally the canopy is one of the last things to be attached to prevent the clear pastic from getting scratched and damaged.

  • Member since
    June, 2017
  • From: Winter Park, FL
Posted by fotofrank on Sunday, August 12, 2018 11:35 AM

GMorrison

Is the clear part still loose? Try to sand the edges a little to improve the fit.

It's a tough spot because there should be a step or edge there, and adding filler just makes it blobby.

 

There are three pins that locate the clear part to the rear canopy frame and a single pin that locates the front clear part. Yes, they are fastened quite tightly to the canopy frame now. Isn't there a thicker super glue that I could use to fill the gap? The other two T-28's don't have the canopies on yet. I may remove the locating pins on the other two models and sand the pieces to make sure they fit better.

OK. On the bench:

Way too much to build in one lifetime...

  • Member since
    June, 2017
  • From: Winter Park, FL
Posted by fotofrank on Sunday, August 12, 2018 11:40 AM

JohnnyK

Why are  you attaching the canopy to the fuselage before you paint and complete the model? Ususally the canopy is one of the last things to be attached to prevent the clear pastic from getting scratched and damaged.

 

The canopy clear parts have already been "Pledged" so they are protected. Attaching the clear parts now assures me that the canopy frame paint will match the rest of the paint on the airplane. I mask the canopy with Tamiya tape leaving the frame exposed. When I spray the entire model everything matches. It doesn't seem like it should work, but it does.

OK. On the bench:

Way too much to build in one lifetime...

  • Member since
    November, 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, August 12, 2018 11:44 AM

Try some of that laser hardening glue. It will not set for hours unless it is exposed to Uv or very blue light (I would not use it outdoors on a sunny day).  You may be able to add some in the gap and smooth it before hitting it with the hardening gun. It is still crystal clear when hardened, and does not give off a fogging gas like CA.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

  • Member since
    May, 2013
  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Sunday, August 12, 2018 12:33 PM

Don's idea is great, I'd be tempted to try it.

You probably know this already, but what the heck, all white glue isn't the same. For example, you might be talking about Elmers white glue for all I know.

For this problem, I think my first try would be Gator's Grip Original Blend (the thick stuff with the green label) due to your gap. This is acrylic glue, not just white hobby glue, and it's very strong and tough. It has been my go to solution for canopy issues for a few years now.

If it doesn't work or you make a mess, it is easy cleanup with water.

You can always fall back on the UV glue. Trouble is, the UV glue is going to easier for you to obtain than the Gator's Grip, which you need to order online. 

My 2 cents

-Greg

  • Member since
    June, 2014
  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Sunday, August 12, 2018 3:20 PM

Hmmm;

 I have built at least four of these and I can't remember a problem like this .What I would do is if you can , remove it and take the frame and at the top of the angled area file some plastic off , so the clear part sets closer to the frame . You can also sand some off the clear part . T.B.

  • Member since
    June, 2017
  • From: Winter Park, FL
Posted by fotofrank on Sunday, August 12, 2018 3:44 PM

Yeah, Greg, when I say white glue I mean Elmer's glue. I've heard of that Gator Grip. I'm going to have to get some. A fellow told me about Gator Grip maybe a years ago, I just haven't bought any yet. I may try to mask the canopy anyway just to see what happens.

OK. On the bench:

Way too much to build in one lifetime...

  • Member since
    August, 2014
  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Monday, August 13, 2018 11:10 AM

Might try Pacer 560 canopy glue...dries clear.   If it will be covered by paint , then Perfect Plastic Putty...can be worked with a damp Q-tip to remove excess and leave smooth.

  • Member since
    May, 2008
  • From: Wyoming Michigan
Posted by ejhammer on Tuesday, August 14, 2018 8:13 PM

This works pretty well too. Used for setting watch crystals.

 

EJ

Completed - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

  • Member since
    January, 2013
Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Thursday, August 16, 2018 10:07 AM

ejhammer

This works pretty well too. Used for setting watch crystals.

 

EJ

 

I never heard of this product. Where can you find it? I like the fact it has a stringe-like point. Is it a thin glue or similar to CA glue? The world wonders...

  • Member since
    June, 2014
  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Thursday, August 16, 2018 3:17 PM

EJ !

 That is the absolute best !

  • Member since
    June, 2017
  • From: Winter Park, FL
Posted by fotofrank on Monday, August 20, 2018 5:04 AM

ejhammer

This works pretty well too. Used for setting watch crystals.

 

EJ

 

I did buy a bottle of Gator Grip. Haven't used it yet. I am going to try to find a tube of this Hypo Cement.

OK. On the bench:

Way too much to build in one lifetime...

  • Member since
    January, 2014
Posted by Silver on Thursday, August 23, 2018 2:45 PM

Use “Perfect Plastic Putty”. Place the canopy in place w/ white clear glue.After drying apply the putty at the area then wipe smooth to the texture you want.Then brush paint the area to match the surrounding texture.

  • Member since
    June, 2017
  • From: Winter Park, FL
Posted by fotofrank on Friday, August 24, 2018 10:48 AM

Silver

Use “Perfect Plastic Putty”. Place the canopy in place w/ white clear glue.After drying apply the putty at the area then wipe smooth to the texture you want.Then brush paint the area to match the surrounding texture.

 

I have used PPP to fill the gap in the past and it worked well. I did buy a tube of the G-S Hypo Cement from Michaels' the other day. We'll see what happens on the next T-28. Before I put the canopy on I'll trim off the locating pins and buff the edges of the clear to be sure it seats well before gluing it on.

OK. On the bench:

Way too much to build in one lifetime...

  • Member since
    June, 2017
  • From: Winter Park, FL
Posted by fotofrank on Friday, August 24, 2018 11:15 AM

This is the T-28 that has been at the center of this discussion:

The canopy is completely masked and I'm ready to move forward with this one. My ever thoughtful wife bought me two packs of 1/8 inch "Mark-It Dots." They are perfiect for the curved portion of the front wind screen. My hunny is the best. Now to attache the wing.

OK. On the bench:

Way too much to build in one lifetime...

JOIN OUR COMMUNITY!

Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.

SEARCH FORUMS

FREE NEWSLETTER
By signing up you may also receive reader surveys and occasional special offers. We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. View our Privacy Policy.