How to use Mr. Surfacer 500, 1000 and 1200 - a tutorial.

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How to use Mr. Surfacer 500, 1000 and 1200 - a tutorial.

  • Have you heard of this wonder filler yet? Here is a link to a feature on the uses of Mr. Surfacer from Gunze-Sangyo, hope you find it useful.
    http://www.swannysmodels.com/Surfacer.html

    Feel free to forward comments to me at webmaster@SwannysModels.com

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  • Thanks for the link most useful
  • They carry the spray bottle of the 1200 at my lhs, but I haven't picked it up as I'm not too big on spraycans. I might have to look again to see if they also carry the 500 and the 1k in a different area. Looks like this stuff might be pretty useful. I'm especially glad to see that you can airbrush the 1200. Thanks for the work there Swanny!
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  • Another great article Swanny. Thumbs Up [tup] Actually though it turns out that all of us are not using Mr. Surfacer the way it is intended. It's actually meant as a sunblock. Yes you know when you see people with that white sfuff on thier nose and thier sunglasses. Just kidding LOL!!! Please don't anyone go out now and do that!!!! Clown [:o)]Sad [:(]Big Smile [:D]

    The reason is the 2nd most elusive mystery: Nobody seems to know what the bottles actually say

    I've had good luck with 1000 and Laq thinner as a primer. It sure does soak up the paint though.
  • QUOTE: Originally posted by I-beam

    Another great article Swanny. Thumbs Up [tup] Actually though it turns out that all of us are not using Mr. Surfacer the way it is intended. It's actually meant as a sunblock. Yes you know when you see people with that white sfuff on thier nose and thier sunglasses. Just kidding LOL!!! Please don't anyone go out now and do that!!!! Clown [:o)]Sad [:(]Big Smile [:D]


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  • QUOTE: Originally posted by I-beam

    The reason is the 2nd most elusive mystery: Nobody seems to know what the bottles actually say

    I've had good luck with 1000 and Laq thinner as a primer. It sure does soak up the paint though.

    On the bottle of Mr Surfacer 500, it actually saids liquid putty
    and for 1000 and 1200 it said primer for paint.

    All 3 actually also come in spray can form. Finding them in the US is a little more difficault and very expensive but this is a VERY commonly use in Asia as primer.
  • I've had the 1000 on my bench for a year now, and it really is fantastic stuffBig Smile [:D]

    The 500 is on it's way from the lhs.

    The best part is the rapid drying time, none of this wait for an hour or two, just wack it on and get on with it.

    To be honest, I'm a large fan of all of Gunzes gear, and use almost exclusively their acrylics.
    Great product IMHO
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  • How hot is this stuff? Is it like the floquil paint where you have to or should use a barrier because of the hot solvent base? I just curious on if it is a hot solvent then when you use it as a filler, how does the plastic hold up if you brush on to much or spray for to long. I have used only enamel and acrylic but have heard that when using the laqcuer based paints you need to spray at a distance so that when it hits the plastic it is almost dry when it hits so that there is no attacking the plastic. Forgive my cluelessness about this. I thought Mr. Surfacer was a primer for their acrylic paints.
  • It is relatively hot but I have not had a single issue with plastic melting when spraying or brushing the stuff. I have gone through a couple bottles now with 100% perfect results. Air pressure at about 18psi, range at 4 to 6 inches.
  • hi,
    can i use nitrocellulose thinner or acetone to thin Mr surfacer to be airbrushed? another question... is lacquer thiner similar to nitrocellulose thinner? i seem to be able to thin Mr Surfacer with first aid alcohol. anybody out there airbrushed thinned with alcohol ? my airbrush seems to be always clogged after 10 min of use with mr surfacer cut with alcohol (1:1)...
  •  abuyia wrote:
    hi,
    can i use nitrocellulose thinner or acetone to thin Mr surfacer to be airbrushed? another question... is lacquer thiner similar to nitrocellulose thinner? i seem to be able to thin Mr Surfacer with first aid alcohol. anybody out there airbrushed thinned with alcohol ? my airbrush seems to be always clogged after 10 min of use with mr surfacer cut with alcohol (1:1)...

    I can't answer about nitrocellulose thinner, but I can report that the recommended thinner is Gunze's Mr. Color Thinner.  It's readily available online if not at your local hobby shop, though Mr. Color paints probably are not.  I have never had a problem in three years' usage with both  500 and 1000.

    The paint is a little hot, but I've brushed 500 and sanded to a smooth finish.  Airbrushing has never caused problems.  Once cured, neither lacquers, enamels or acrylics have reacted with the primer.

    "You can't have everything--where would you put it?"
  • Great "how to" article Señor Swanny, but I've got a question for you. Does Mr. Surfacer have to be sanded within a certain amount of time like gap filling glues that can dry harder than the plastic?
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  • hey swanny, I recently got myself a bottle of gunze liquid (it says "dissolved") putty along with some re-supplies for base white 1000 (mr surfacer in white =P) have you ever tried those or know any comparison between that and the mr surfacer 500?  having not used 500 yet i can only assume the surfacer 500 is probably finer or thinner.
    -=Ryan=- Too many kits... so little free time. MadDocWorks
  •  archangel571 wrote:
    hey swanny, I recently got myself a bottle of gunze liquid (it says "dissolved") putty along with some re-supplies for base white 1000 (mr surfacer in white =P) have you ever tried those or know any comparison between that and the mr surfacer 500?  having not used 500 yet i can only assume the surfacer 500 is probably finer or thinner.

    It's the other way around actually. I haven't used 500 either, but I believe it goes, in order of coarsest to finest, 500 - 1000 - 1200.  Can't help with the Mr "dissolved" putty I'm afraid.

  • Oh no, I was saying that I assumed 500 is finer than the dissolved putty.

    Well, the dissolved putty is pretty much really putty with liquid cement like how people usually do it home-made (that's how it smelled like).  It dries pretty fast but requires a really good shaking then stiring prior to use to get it mixed up evenly, otherwise it'd look just fine like white glue when I apply it but will dry to look like a clear thick layer of cement with little minute chunks of broken down white putty in there.  I think my regular squadron white putty was doing a better job filling up the seams.  Worked out pretty well for some 1/35 figures though.

    -=Ryan=- Too many kits... so little free time. MadDocWorks