Liquid mask peeling.

cj95

Member since
August 2004
From: Mission, Texas

Liquid mask peeling.

Posted by cj95 on Friday, September 23, 2005 10:50 PM

Trying my hand at using liquid masks(MicroMask) for camo patterns fo rthe first time tonight.
Overall I'm fairly pleased with the results, but I see needs for fine tuning.

Primarily, when I peeled th mask off (kinda fun actually Big Smile [:D]

) I took with it some very small bits of the underlying base coat. The way i see it I have two options in the future.
1....Either lay down a heavier basecoat.......possibly a solution since mine tonight was a bit thin.

2. Or...seal the basecoat with something that will protect it from the mask., (future, or some dullcote or something else)

Anyway like I said, overall I call it a 80% successful experiment....just need a few tweaks to make it perfect.

Anybody else solve this little problem?

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 23, 2005 11:48 PM

Never used liquid mask for cammo, But... have heard & seen pix of one of us (can't remember his name) using modeling clay, I think "Playdoh" is what it is, seems to be getting real nice results.

Be good & have FUN,
Bill

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cj95

Member since
August 2004
From: Mission, Texas

Posted by cj95 on Saturday, September 24, 2005 7:23 AM

Curious.......

I thought the whole idea behind liquid masks was for complex curves and such. I seem to recall reading somewhere about ppl using it for camo.

In regards to playdoh.....I've tried it with very messy results. It tends to dry onto the plastic needing to be chipped off. It also gets stuck in panel lines. Just my personal experience with it. Black Eye [B)]

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MusicCity

Member since
January 2004
From: USA

Posted by MusicCity on Saturday, September 24, 2005 8:11 AM

What kind of paint did you use for the base coat? Some (many / most?) of the liquid masks state on the container not to use them with aqueous (water-based) paints which would include most acrylics. Plus, if you used acrylic without any enamel or laquer primer that is could also be part of your problem.

Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page

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MontanaCowboy

Member since
June 2005
From: I'm here physically, but not mentally.....

Posted by MontanaCowboy on Saturday, September 24, 2005 11:28 AM

Do not use playdough, use Silly putty, playdough dries, while SP doesn't (within 2 weeks)

"You know, Life is like a Rollercoaster. Sometimes you just die unexpectedly." No wait, that's not it.

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cj95

Member since
August 2004
From: Mission, Texas

Posted by cj95 on Saturday, September 24, 2005 12:17 PM

Base coat was Model Masters Enamel thinned and applied with an airbrush.

Maybe I need more than one coat?

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MusicCity

Member since
January 2004
From: USA

Posted by MusicCity on Saturday, September 24, 2005 6:17 PM

Liquid mask shouldn't have bothered enamel at all. For one reason or another the paint wasn't adhereing properly because it should have come loose that easily. Could have been some oil or grease on the model (oil from hands, mold lubricant from the molding process; I always clean parts with alcohol) or it wasn't completely cured. If you sprayed a heavy coat it can take a while to cure fully. When airbrushing I recommend several light coats as opposed to one heavy coat with sufficient drying time in between coats.

I don't know what caused it, but with enamel it shouldn't have happened. Maybe it will behave next time you use it.

Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page

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Anonymous

Member since
November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 26, 2005 10:47 AM

Try "Sticky Tac" cj, it doesnt dry up whan painted over. Faber Castell makes these. it's called tack-it if im correct. mold it in the shape you want.stick it,paint over it,then remove! it doesn't harm the underlying paint job at all..

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knight667

Member since
January 2004
From: Philomath, OR, USA

Posted by knight667 on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 6:36 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by cj95

Base coat was Model Masters Enamel thinned and applied with an airbrush.

Maybe I need more than one coat?

Did you prime before putting on your basecoat? I've found that priming the model first and letting the primer sit for a couple days before applying the basecoat works well...never had any paint pulling problems that way.

John "The only easy day was yesterday." - US Navy SEALs "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome." - US Marine Corp. "I live each day/Like it's my last/...I never look back" - from "I'm A Rocker" by Judas Priest

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Ali1kj

Member since
January 2004

Posted by Ali1kj on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 7:28 AM

Also, just because the paint has "flashed" off on the surface and looks dried, it still takes 24hrs to cure , Prior to that it will peel with liquid mask.
Did you rush it ?

, also if you apply the mask before this drying has taken place, you will trp the solvent under it and it will take longer. .

AJ

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