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Pledge in Australia
Posted by rsm.gbg on Tuesday, April 14, 2015 1:12 AM

Hi,

I want to give pledge a go but it is hard to find in Melbourne Australia.

Coles have this product: http://shop.coles.com.au/online/national/wood-magic-cleaner-floor-liquid

Is it the same thing? it is yellowish instead of clear.

- Roland

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  • From: Sydney, Australia
Posted by Phil_H on Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:08 AM

No, it's not the same thing. This one has detergents in it & isn't suitable as a clear coat. There used to be a product "Pledge One-Go" which was an acrylic coating, but this was discontinued several years ago. the nearest supermarket product is Pascoes "Long Life" floor polish. I can't recall seeing this in Coles for several years, but it's still available as far as I know.

http://www2.woolworthsonline.com.au/Shop/ProductDetails?Stockcode=31896&name=long-life-floor-polish-self-shine

Note that this can be unfriendly to acrylic paints and may cause runs/fading.

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Posted by rsm.gbg on Tuesday, April 14, 2015 6:50 PM

ok, thanks.

Any idea if the real pledge is available anywhere in Australia?

Is Pascoes "Long Life" as good as Pledge?

I use only enamels anyway.

- Roland

cml
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  • From: Brisbane, Australia
Posted by cml on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 6:43 PM

Hey rsm.gbg, i don't think Pledge One Go is available anymore.

As Phil_H said, it was discontinued a few years back. I wrote to Johnson's back in 2011 and they said it was being re-formulated and would be released again, but never happened.

I'm pretty sure this is, in essence, Future (but now re-branded).  Fairly certain this is the US import version, not the one that was available in Australia.

www.polish-up.com.au/.../pledge-floor-care-multi-surface-floor-finish-798ml.html

Chris

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 8:10 PM

Pledge / Future is just clear acrylic, nothing magic about it.  Tamiya sells it, and I imagine other model paint brands do, too.

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

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Posted by Chrisk-k on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 9:03 PM

I agree with Chuck.  There's nothing special about Future.  Tamiya clear acrylic does the same thing.

Iwata HP-CS | Iwata HP-CR | Iwata HP-M2 | H&S Evolution | Iwata Smart Jet + Sparmax Tank

cml
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  • From: Brisbane, Australia
Posted by cml on Thursday, April 23, 2015 1:51 AM

Actually, now that you mention it, somebody in my club said the Humbrol Clear is a near direct match for Future.

Whilst i agree Tamiya may be the same, it's the pricing which is different.  

Even at $27 for 800mL online for a bottle of pledge,  Hence it's far cheaper to buy it under a different name if you want to be dipping canopies.

Chris

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Posted by rsm.gbg on Monday, April 27, 2015 4:19 AM

Hi,

Thanks for some clarification.

Humbrol seems to sell 3 different ones, gloss/satin/matt 125ml for $15 AUD

Tamiya has X-22, 10ml for $4

Polish-up has the pledge one, 800ml for $26 (with shipping)

Maybe it's worth getting the polish up one.

Pledge is that gloss/satin or matt? as in the humbrol ones?

The humbrol one probably last me some years anyway.

And humbrol doesn't take up all the space...

Decision, decisions,

- Roland

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Posted by Snibs on Monday, April 27, 2015 4:58 AM

Hi Roland.

Have a look here: cs.finescale.com/.../159130.aspx

I love the Humbrol clear range and from what Iv'e heard it seems to be the same as pledge or very close, what you see in this Humbrol video is spot on:

www.youtube.com/watch

the only thing is DO NOT use it when it's humid or you will get the white haze the same as other varnish finishes BUT if you do, and I learnt this from experience, go over it again in better conditions and it will fix it no problem.

Give it a go.

Cheers from Mick.

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Posted by Brutal on Thursday, May 18, 2017 10:12 PM

Hey Chris you wouldn't happen to know the name of the Tamils product you were talking about? I tried TS80 on my first model after not doing any modelling for years and it frosted my canopy.

Lessoned learned there. 

 

Cheers. 

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Posted by damouav on Friday, May 19, 2017 1:48 PM

You do realise that this thread is over two years old...

If your after a product similar to what has been discussed try Alclad II Aqua Gloss.

https://www.bnamodelworld.com/alclad-alc-600-aqua-gloss-4oz-120ml

Good luck.

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Posted by Snibs on Friday, May 19, 2017 4:30 PM

That went quick, the aqua gloss reads just like the Humbrol clear, I must try it.

Love BNA model world.

Mick.

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Posted by damouav on Friday, May 19, 2017 5:04 PM

I dont actually use these products to dip clear parts in anymore, i polish instead.

But BNA is also my go to place for all things fine scale...

Damian

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Posted by Snibs on Friday, May 19, 2017 5:45 PM

Micro mesh is great for sanding clear parts as you probably already know Big Smile.

Cheers.

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Posted by damouav on Friday, May 19, 2017 8:47 PM

Yup.

Novus & Mr Tamiya polishes.

Job Done.

 

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Posted by rsm.gbg on Monday, May 22, 2017 6:54 PM

Hi,

I found Pascoes "Long Life" floor polish at Bunnings $11.75 for a liter https://www.bunnings.com.au/long-life-1l-self-shining-floor-polish_p4460498

I used it on enamel and acrylics and it gives a satin shine and a very hard surface to protect the paint.
I have painted over it both enamels and acrylics
I have used Microscale Matt coat to get a matt finish
I used puttys over it.
No issues so far

To test: Decals, Canopies

It works good in humid conditions as my garage is very humid in winter.
Humbrol Clear is horrible, it destroys everything I use it on.
Microscale gloss/satin/matt works really well but is expensive.

- Roland

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Posted by damouav on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:57 AM

It's not remotely like Pledge or its derivitives by a large margin, I should know as I used it and its useless.

The product that modelers in other parts of the world use maybe the same, the stuff in Australia is not.

Alclad II Aqua Gloss is an acrylic based high gloss product  which you can AB prior to decals and with the added benefit of dipping your clear parts if you so care.

Locally manufactured Pledge and it's spin off products are is not longer available in Australia, it went out of production several years ago.

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Posted by Snibs on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 7:31 AM


"Humbrol Clear is horrible, it destroys everything I use it on". 

Not surprised, Humbrol varnish and humidity don't mix, go's hazy.

Some stuff that might be interesting.

https://sites.google.com/view/airbrush-and-modeling/home

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Posted by damouav on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 9:13 AM

I have some MRP clear varnish arriving today which I have heard very good things about.

Wont be in a position to shoot it till I get my Mosquito painted...

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