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Posted by ardvark002 on Monday, March 12, 2018 7:42 PM

Hi all, I read that m&m paint is going to be discontinued. Is this true, can anyone confirm this for positive? It seems really strange to me that such a good product would be discontinued. They have such a great selection of colors, especially military. It's the major brand stocked at my local hobby store. They have not heard a thing about this. Hope not!!   Ardvark     Thanks

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, March 12, 2018 8:17 PM

M&M paint? Not a brand I can say that I have ever heard of before. Model Master, Vallejo, Tamiya, Gunze, Humbrol, Revell, AK, Mission Models... those are current lines that I am familiar with.

 

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Posted by Greg on Monday, March 12, 2018 8:51 PM

Aw come on, it's the paint that melts in you mouth, not in your hands.

Geez, Stik......

But seriously, I too am curious to which paint you refer.

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Posted by damouav on Monday, March 12, 2018 8:51 PM

Are not M&M's a registered trademark of Mars Confectionary...

If you refer to Model Master paints, if you believe the chatter, some of the range is to be discontinued. But even this has been debated ad nauseam, and no offical confirmation from what I have read has been confimed.

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Posted by ardvark002 on Monday, March 12, 2018 9:10 PM
Hi all, I was talking about model masters. From the response so far, I must have heard wrong. I did't think it could be true. Thanks, Aardvark
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Posted by falconmod on Tuesday, March 13, 2018 8:53 AM

It is true that they are discontining some of theModel Master military colors, mostly the German WWII and the japanese colors,  I talked to testers and my paint guy at my local HS.  Have to go Acrylic for them.

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Posted by bluenote on Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:11 AM

Yes, it's been confirmed that Testors is discontinuing the enamel Modelmaster II line (basically all of the international military colours, figure colours, etc).  Here is the colour chart:

https://www.testors.com/~/media/DigitalEncyclopedia/Documents/Testors/ColorCharts/RM280040_0914_ModelMaster_IntMilitary_FigureEnamelPaints.ashx

Approximately 130 colours.

There's no official word on the rest of their enamel paints.  I imagine it's just a matter of time before the rest of their enamel paints gets discontinued as well.  

They still have their automotive enamel colours and American FS colours, but that's it for enamels.  

 

 

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Posted by blackdog62 on Tuesday, March 13, 2018 12:24 PM

I called them about 2 months ago and got put in touch with 1 of there paint engineers. he was surprised about it and when through hi pc and other coworkers and could not find any info stating any of testors or model master paints being discontinued. maybe his department missed the memo.

I certainly hope not.  there paints are all I use.  I'm a professional painter and there oil base paint is a premium product. I'd hate to see it go. the last several years here in CA. USA we have seen are best products pulled of the market and told the New latex is just as good. that simply is not true. but that's California.

 

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Posted by bluenote on Tuesday, March 13, 2018 1:43 PM

blackdog62

I called them about 2 months ago and got put in touch with 1 of there paint engineers. he was surprised about it and when through hi pc and other coworkers and could not find any info stating any of testors or model master paints being discontinued. maybe his department missed the memo.

I certainly hope not.  there paints are all I use.  I'm a professional painter and there oil base paint is a premium product. I'd hate to see it go. the last several years here in CA. USA we have seen are best products pulled of the market and told the New latex is just as good. that simply is not true. but that's California.

 

 

 
This is their stock response from several modellers (including myself) who have reached out to them:  
 
Thank you for contacting Rust-Oleum Product Support. 
The 9580D International Military & Figure Enamel was recently discontinued due to the lack of support for it in the marketplace, however the Model Master paint line as a whole is still available: 
http://www.testors.com/product-catalog/testors-brands/model-master 
If you have any additional questions or concerns please do not hesitate to contact us. 
Sincerely, 
Jason K. 
Rust-Oleum Product Support 
 
 
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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Tuesday, March 13, 2018 2:36 PM

bluenote
 
blackdog62

I called them about 2 months ago and got put in touch with 1 of there paint engineers. he was surprised about it and when through hi pc and other coworkers and could not find any info stating any of testors or model master paints being discontinued. maybe his department missed the memo.

I certainly hope not.  there paints are all I use.  I'm a professional painter and there oil base paint is a premium product. I'd hate to see it go. the last several years here in CA. USA we have seen are best products pulled of the market and told the New latex is just as good. that simply is not true. but that's California.

 

 

 

 
This is their stock response from several modellers (including myself) who have reached out to them:  
 
Thank you for contacting Rust-Oleum Product Support. 
The 9580D International Military & Figure Enamel was recently discontinued due to the lack of support for it in the marketplace, however the Model Master paint line as a whole is still available: 
http://www.testors.com/product-catalog/testors-brands/model-master 
If you have any additional questions or concerns please do not hesitate to contact us. 
Sincerely, 
Jason K. 
Rust-Oleum Product Support 
 
 
 

What I'd like to know is what or where "lack of support" assumption they're hearing it from.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, March 13, 2018 7:57 PM

More than likely, they are using that as a term for sales. There is a lot of competition out there for the Model Master paint line. 

 

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Posted by Bearcat57 on Tuesday, March 13, 2018 8:48 PM

I think it’s just the peanut ones that are being discontinued (probably due to complaints from those who have allergies) the regular paints will still be available.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, March 14, 2018 9:32 AM

bluenote

Yes, it's been confirmed that Testors is discontinuing the enamel Modelmaster II line (basically all of the international military colours, figure colours, etc).  Here is the colour chart:

https://www.testors.com/~/media/DigitalEncyclopedia/Documents/Testors/ColorCharts/RM280040_0914_ModelMaster_IntMilitary_FigureEnamelPaints.ashx

Approximately 130 colours.

There's no official word on the rest of their enamel paints.  I imagine it's just a matter of time before the rest of their enamel paints gets discontinued as well.  

They still have their automotive enamel colours and American FS colours, but that's it for enamels.  

 

 

 

My local Hobby Lobby has a new Testors Rack.  Fewer of the old military colors, but newer non-military colors.  So it seems like they are not dropping ALL their enamels.

I wonder, with so many military modelers switching to acrylics, if they felt enamels were not a good investment any more.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by bluenote on Wednesday, March 14, 2018 9:36 AM

Don Stauffer

 

 
bluenote

Yes, it's been confirmed that Testors is discontinuing the enamel Modelmaster II line (basically all of the international military colours, figure colours, etc).  Here is the colour chart:

https://www.testors.com/~/media/DigitalEncyclopedia/Documents/Testors/ColorCharts/RM280040_0914_ModelMaster_IntMilitary_FigureEnamelPaints.ashx

Approximately 130 colours.

There's no official word on the rest of their enamel paints.  I imagine it's just a matter of time before the rest of their enamel paints gets discontinued as well.  

They still have their automotive enamel colours and American FS colours, but that's it for enamels.  

 

 

 

 

 

My local Hobby Lobby has a new Testors Rack.  Fewer of the old military colors, but newer non-military colors.  So it seems like they are not dropping ALL their enamels.

I wonder, with so many military modelers switching to acrylics, if they felt enamels were not a good investment any more.

 

That's a good point.  I think military modelers have basically moved to acrylics.

Just curious Don, can you recall any of the new non-military colours you saw?  I'm just wondering if they are brand new colours introduced by Testors or just new colours that Hobby Lobby hasn't carried before?

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, March 14, 2018 2:44 PM

bluenote

 

That's a good point.  I think military modelers have basically moved to acrylics.

 

Not all... there are some like myself who still use enamels. Thankfully Humbrol has us covered.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by damouav on Wednesday, March 14, 2018 9:02 PM

I have predominatly gone to Acrylic paints due to ease of use, clean up and quick flash time. Enamel for me takes way too long to setup and requires a lot more care and is relegated to detail work only.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, March 15, 2018 6:50 AM

damouav

I have predominatly gone to Acrylic paints due to ease of use, clean up and quick flash time. Enamel for me takes way too long to setup and requires a lot more care and is relegated to detail work only.

 

Acrylic cleanup is easy only if it has not dried in airbrush.  Once it does, and it does fast, cleanup can be a real mess.  Make sure you clean up immediately after using it.

 

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Posted by damouav on Thursday, March 15, 2018 3:23 PM

Don Stauffer

 

 
damouav

I have predominatly gone to Acrylic paints due to ease of use, clean up and quick flash time. Enamel for me takes way too long to setup and requires a lot more care and is relegated to detail work only.

 

 

 

Acrylic cleanup is easy only if it has not dried in airbrush.  Once it does, and it does fast, cleanup can be a real mess.  Make sure you clean up immediately after using it.

 

 

Yes, after each and every session with laquer thinners. Strip down every couple of weeks for a full clean and wipe down. Spray a tinny bit of laquer through before each session and my AB's are always ready to go.

They are as clean as the day I bought them.

 

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Thursday, March 15, 2018 9:50 PM

Don -

I airbrush exclusively using acrylics. However, I don't use only Model Master acrylics. I have Aeromaster, Tamiya, Pollyscale, Badger, Floquil RR colors and Mission Model acrylcs. Mission Model acrylics has expanded their color line even more iust recently and are getting to be quite popular these days. I have a few in my stash and plan on getting more colors in the future.

 

Give Mission Models acrylics a try. Doing so may change your outlook on acrylics.

 

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