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Are Winsor and Newtion Series 7 brushes worth the expense?

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  • Member since
    August 2007
  • From: Toronto
Are Winsor and Newtion Series 7 brushes worth the expense?
Posted by BGuy on Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:58 AM

I've seen a TON of very positive reviews of these brushes but they cost plenty, too.  I've also heard that once you use brushes on a particular medium, (oils, acrylics, watercolours, etc.), you've "wrecked" the brush for all other media--any comments on that? What size brushes do you find to be most useful for figures?

Finally, I'll probably end up getting some of these brushes regardless, so what's the cheapest place to purchase them, (important note: I'm in Canada so shipping is a consideration).  The local shops here in Toronto charge 15-35 bucks a pop for brushes in sizes I'd be interested in but I've heard much lower numbers from American sources.

  • Member since
    February 2006
  • From: Boston
Posted by Wilbur Wright on Sunday, July 5, 2009 4:00 PM

Good brushes definately last longer, but  15-35 is a lot of money. I used to buy from Pearl Paint which is a discount art store. Try looking for them. I also buy red sable blends at AC Moore and they seem to do ok for around $5 a brush.

If you know the numbers you need then call Pearl and see what they can do.

Brushes from an art store are far better than those 3 packs of red sable or camel hair from the Hobby Shop .

  • Member since
    August 2005
  • From: Sydney, Australia
Posted by Phil_H on Sunday, July 5, 2009 7:43 PM

I guess it depends on what you're comparing them to.

What are you using now?

If you're using "craft grade" brushes or discount store brushes (eg. the "10 (or even 6) on a card" for $2.00 type) then even a mid-range red or Kolinski sable artists brush is going to be like the difference between day and night. IF you're already using "artist grade" brushes, the differences are likely to be more subtle.

For most useful sizes for figures, I'd suggest starting with a size 2, 0 and 3/0 - you should be able to do just about everything you need with those sizes

I haven't used the W&N S7's but they are hard (and expensive) to come by here in Australia and I'd be interested to know if they're significantly better.

 

  • Member since
    August 2007
  • From: Toronto
Posted by BGuy on Sunday, July 5, 2009 8:39 PM
Well, I bought a single "0" sized series 7 brush a couple of days ago and it maintained its point wonderfully.  Previously I've been using a variety of art-store brand brushes, with a small set of "black gold" brushes as my top-of-the-liners.  Since everybody I've talked to about series 7 brushes (even the guy at the store said his dad thought they were awesome) has raved about them, I decided to drop...ugh...14 bucks on a test item.  The art store keeps 'em in a locked display cabinet and even the small ones come with their own tube.  That said, I'll have to reserve judgement until I've given my new brush more use.

Gus
  • Member since
    May 2009
Posted by Gus on Tuesday, July 7, 2009 12:29 PM

Yes!

I've tried some of their cheaper ones and they don't last as long.  I also have other brand like Princeton, etc. and the one that last the longest is the Series 7 Miniature brush.  It doesn't seem that expensive as some of my other brushes are just about 20% less.  Got mine from www.dickblick.com

  • Member since
    December 2005
Posted by JamesDean on Friday, July 10, 2009 7:51 AM

"Are Winsor and Newtion Series 7 brushes worth the expense?"

Purely subjective of course, but in my opinion, no.

They are exquisit, hand-made sable brushes, and like all pure sable brushes are intended primarly for watercolor.  In fact we would nomrally say that using them with the ever more popular acrylics will just ruin them in short order... BUT these days with the Andrea/Vallejo technique of "very thin" (watered down) paint, you are getting close to watercolor and can really benefit from the flow control afforded by sable.

At roughly 1/2, even 1/3 the price, but still a most premium product, I've settled on the Winsor & Newton "Sceptre Gold II" which is a sable/synthetic blend so it gives you the control of sable when doing the super thin acrylics, but still holds up a little better in the long run.

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