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Omni 4000 Parts?
Posted by blabride on Friday, July 10, 2009 11:57 AM

Greetings,

I have about a four year old Omni 4000 that I have used as my acrylic main coat airbrush. It has finally reached the point were it needs some new parts. I can't seem to find my manual so I went on line to look at a parts breakdown and I am confused. Does the 4000 have a small cone part in between the body and the air cap like the anthems and crescendos? The parts breakdown shows this but mine does not have one I don't know if it was lost in a previous cleaning or was never there to begin with. Maybe this is a reason it has not sprayed real well lately. 

Also would a good soak in lacquer thinner clean up the air cap and body or would it be worth the 25.00 for the new parts?

Thanks

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  • From: Left forever
Posted by Bgrigg on Friday, July 10, 2009 1:56 PM

Go here and click on the 4000. That will download the manual and parts breakdown. Yes, there is a cone.

Soaking in lacquer thinner wouldn't hurt (pull out all O-rings or plan on buying new ones first!). They don't sell the body seperately. You can buy dental cleaning brushes that work really well in reaching those hard to reach areas.

So long folks!

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Posted by blabride on Friday, July 10, 2009 3:15 PM

Thanks for the reply. This is helpful. Although if you will look I may even be more confused the bottom feed brush at the top of the diagram seems to be a vega brush. Mine seems to be the top feed body below it. What is also strange is my brush seems to have a part between the body and the t8131 OMNI air cap which is screweed to the t8131g air cap guard. It looks similar to the t617 air cap body in the diagram of the bottom feeder. But mine is longer?

My cone did fall out of the air cap body.

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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Friday, July 10, 2009 7:32 PM
 blabride wrote:

Thanks for the reply. This is helpful. Although if you will look I may even be more confused the bottom feed brush at the top of the diagram seems to be a vega brush.

Vega and Omni are both Thayer and Chandler airbrushes and that is why they are listed together.


Mine seems to be the top feed body below it. What is also strange is my brush seems to have a part between the body and the t8131 OMNI air cap which is screweed to the t8131g air cap guard. It looks similar to the t617 air cap body in the diagram of the bottom feeder. But mine is longer?

My cone did fall out of the air cap body.

T617? I don't see that part. Am I missing it? 

 

 

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by blabride on Friday, July 10, 2009 10:41 PM

Mike

It is the air cap body shown in the upper left. In the diagram of the bottom feed. I did manage to get it going again by soaking the tip and air cap body in Easy Off oven cleaner. I went to Home Depot and picked up a box of O rings (Danco part 96723 is an exact match) and I am back in business. Sprays like new.

Has the 4000 changed in design any over the last five years?

Thanks

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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Saturday, July 11, 2009 4:52 AM
 blabride wrote:

Mike

It is the air cap body shown in the upper left. In the diagram of the bottom feed. I did manage to get it going again by soaking the tip and air cap body in Easy Off oven cleaner. I went to Home Depot and picked up a box of O rings (Danco part 96723 is an exact match) and I am back in business. Sprays like new.

Has the 4000 changed in design any over the last five years?

Thanks

I am glad you are back in business. I have never had to clean the part you mentioned in my Omni 4000 so I am not sure how paint ended up there. You said yours is a "bottom feed" so I am assuming yours is the Omni 3000 and not the 4000. 

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by blabride on Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:00 AM

Mike,

It is the top feed like the body shown on the bottom left of the parts diagram.

What confuses me about ordering parts is that the air cap body part number t617 shown in the upper left is more like what is on my brush than the air omni air cap t8131 that is shown on the top feed body like I have in the lower left. But my cap guard is definantly the t8131g shown with the top feed body. Maybe the illustrator was temporarily distracted at this point and switched them.

By the way Mike I have a Badger 100lg with the fine tip which I use for detail work but I am really salivating over the renegade velocity. Do you think I have anything to gain by getting one? Would it make extra fine work with post shading, exhausts stains, luftwaffe schemes etc any easier. I have mainly been using Gunze acrylics and there new synthetic lacquers and occasionaly use MM enamels.

Thanks

 

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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Saturday, July 11, 2009 1:46 PM
 blabride wrote:

Mike,

It is the top feed like the body shown on the bottom left of the parts diagram.

What confuses me about ordering parts is that the air cap body part number t617 shown in the upper left is more like what is on my brush than the air omni air cap t8131 that is shown on the top feed body like I have in the lower left. But my cap guard is definantly the t8131g shown with the top feed body. Maybe the illustrator was temporarily distracted at this point and switched them.

By the way Mike I have a Badger 100lg with the fine tip which I use for detail work but I am really salivating over the renegade velocity. Do you think I have anything to gain by getting one? Would it make extra fine work with post shading, exhausts stains, luftwaffe schemes etc any easier. I have mainly been using Gunze acrylics and there new synthetic lacquers and occasionaly use MM enamels.

Thanks

 

Probably not worth the investment IMHO. The Renegade Velocity is an awesome airbrush no doubt, but since you already have the 100LG it probably wouldn't be worth the additional cost to buy the Velocity for what you mention.  

I have painted some pretty good looking models in my opinion and I am using the Omni 4000 predominantly. Maybe once I use the Renegade more it may become my go to airbrush we shall see. 

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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