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Natural metal finishes.
Posted by jimbot58 on Thursday, August 13, 2009 3:02 AM

I am trying natural finishes for the first time and want your advise on methods that work best for you. I tried the Bare Metal Foil, and between my aging vision and the onset of arthritis in my hands, it was just too hard. I am trying Testors metalizers and though I like the look, the finish is just way too delicate and easily damaged. Overspraying with the sealer leaves it looking like paint and spoils the effect to me. I am mostly wondering about a product called Alclad and have never used it. Someone described it as "virtually bullitproof" and wonder if that's true. Also would be how to use it as I understand you need to actually put down a primer before hand? I hate to go out and spend the money for this stuff as it is quite expensive it seems, and then find out it is NG.

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Posted by MusicCity on Thursday, August 13, 2009 5:16 AM
Alclad is very, very good.  It is also very thin and any imperfections whatsoever in the base coat or prime coat are going to show through.
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Posted by tyamada on Thursday, August 13, 2009 7:07 AM

Alclad II is very good stuff for Natural Metal Finishes.  Here is a link to their website:

http://www.alclad2.com/alclad-home.html

You could also try SNJ Metal paint:

http://www.hawkeyeshobbies.com/snj-spray-metal-paints.htm

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Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Thursday, August 13, 2009 7:47 AM
Also besides SnJ Spray Metal which is enamel based, we also offer Talon which is an acrylic.

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Posted by waikong on Thursday, August 13, 2009 12:13 PM

here's my take as I've used Testors Metalizer, Alclad, and Talon.

Testor: As you said, its very delicate, but great look. Buffs up to a nice shine, but don't even try to mask it with tape, it will lift.

Alclad: Great stuff. Been using it for a couple of years, you definitely need to have a very nicely finished surface. All imperfections will show through. The only big con for me has to be the smell, its Lacquer based, so its strong stuff and you need to clean your Airbrush with lacquer thinner. You do need to primer your model for best results. Great range of colors.

Talon: Just got it and had some experience with it. The main reason for trying this out is that is Acrylic based and very little odor. Your airbrush can be cleaned with whatever you use to clean water/alcohol based Acrylic paint. Still need to prime, but on small surfaces that will not need masking, have had no problems with paint lifting so far. You can shine it up more with SNJ powder, but I haven't tried that yet. Not as wide a range as Alclad.

 

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Posted by jimbot58 on Saturday, August 15, 2009 12:56 AM

Just like you guys said, I was pleased with the look of the Testors when I painted the over all color with Aluminium Plate on my P51D and buffed it out. I waited several days and then attempted to paint some of the panels offseting colors such as the control surfaces. I used frisket paper as it is very low tack, and bingo! Off came parts of the original finish! I may try the Alclad as there is a hobby store very close that stocks it. I'm not worried about the smell as I work in a well ventilated area.

My biggest concern is when I attempt to decal and using any sort of setting solutions. I didn't know how the Testors would react. I could experiment as I have an old model I use for testing out these things.

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Posted by mucker on Sunday, August 16, 2009 9:27 PM

You won't be disappointed with the Alclad. Just remember these simply rules:

1. High gloss balck undercoat (I usually seal mine with Future)

2. Let the undercoat cure for at LEAST 48 hours.

 

I've never had lifting, peeling, etc. when following these rules.

Declas adhere well, but you don't get the actual blending in unless you seal the decals with

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