Acrylic wash over Future

bbrowniii wrote:

Triarius wrote: I must disagree to some extent with the previous posters. Future is an acrylic coating. You can put an acrylic wash over it, but the brand of paint you use for the wash is critical. Do not use an alcohol solvent acrylic (Tamiya, Gunze, possibly others) over Future. Future is soluble in most common alcohols, and using an alcohol solvent paint over it will immediately dissolve the Future. Use an aqueous solvent (water soluble) paint wash over Future. While that may be the case, I have NEVER had that issue.  I use Tamiya paints, almost exclusively.  When (and I don't always) I use a Future base, so long as I let it cure fully (24 - 48 hours) I have never had a problem.  I also commonly do an acrylic over acrylic wash (Tamiya on Tamiya - again fully cured) and have never had a problem....

Fully cured Future is much more resistant to any solvent, and the same applies to a lesser degree to Tamiya acrylics. However, I suspect that your wash technique is better than most—I've done the same things you have. But I don't recommend the procedure to those of less experience!

Triarius wrote:

I must disagree to some extent with the previous posters. Future is an acrylic coating. You can put an acrylic wash over it, but the brand of paint you use for the wash is critical. Do not use an alcohol solvent acrylic (Tamiya, Gunze, possibly others) over Future. Future is soluble in most common alcohols, and using an alcohol solvent paint over it will immediately dissolve the Future. Use an aqueous solvent (water soluble) paint wash over Future.

While that may be the case, I have NEVER had that issue.  I use Tamiya paints, almost exclusively.  When (and I don't always) I use a Future base, so long as I let it cure fully (24 - 48 hours) I have never had a problem.  I also commonly do an acrylic over acrylic wash (Tamiya on Tamiya - again fully cured) and have never had a problem....

Good points Ross.

That is why I use Createx acrylic T-shirt paints for my washes over the Future. 

They are water-based and almost don't stick well enough after thinned out and a drop of Dawn dishwashing liquid is added. It allows for easy removal if you make mistakes. 

I must disagree to some extent with the previous posters. Future is an acrylic coating. You can put an acrylic wash over it, but the brand of paint you use for the wash is critical. Do not use an alcohol solvent acrylic (Tamiya, Gunze, possibly others) over Future. Future is soluble in most common alcohols, and using an alcohol solvent paint over it will immediately dissolve the Future. Use an aqueous solvent (water soluble) paint wash over Future.

Yes, this is correct.  You can do an acrylic wash over Future over acrylic finish.  Future is pretty tough and you can pretty much do any kind of wash over it, as long as you let it dry and harden enough.  I usually wait at least 24 hours before applying a wash or anything else over Future. 

I believe the main issue with acrylic on acrylic is making sure that it is fully cured.  Once cured, acrylics are pretty tough paints really.

Mike