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Posted by Konigwolf13 on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:23 AM

Santa (err Prime Minister Kevin Rudd) gave me my first airbrush last christmas, aztek A4305, cant complain about it yet, its been a great brush to learn on.

 Andrew

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Posted by keilau on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:16 AM

 doc-hm3 wrote:
 I confess, I have an "AB" fetish. I started with Badger's cheap $15.00 single action external mix (it actually works). Then the Badger 200 single action. A Badger "Crescendo" my first double action. Then a friend gave me an Pashce VL double action that needed a real good scrubing inside and out, but works fine. Then about 2yrs ago I found the fantastic IWATA HP-CS double action, which is the best so far. But last Saturday while at the KCAMPS show, Jan from Badger was almost giving away the top of the line "AB's", so I bought a SOTAR 20-20 for only $100.00. I have not yet been able to try it out yet, but am very anxiuos to do so.

Doc, I am also very interested in seeing your impression of the Sota from an Iwata user's prespective. It may not sound fair to compare top of the line Badger to the bottom of the line Iwata at first glance, but they are now priced the same.

I have a Badger Patriot 105 on order too.

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Posted by doc-hm3 on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:21 AM
 I confess, I have an "AB" fetish. I started with Badger's cheap $15.00 single action external mix (it actually works). Then the Badger 200 single action. A Badger "Crescendo" my first double action. Then a friend gave me an Pashce VL double action that needed a real good scrubing inside and out, but works fine. Then about 2yrs ago I found the fantastic IWATA HP-CS double action, which is the best so far. But last Saturday while at the KCAMPS show, Jan from Badger was almost giving away the top of the line "AB's", so I bought a SOTAR 2020-2 for only $100.00. I have not yet been able to try it out yet, but am very anxiuos to do so.

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Posted by hughes2682 on Sunday, October 18, 2009 5:29 PM
Just draggin' each other along. LOL
Cheers
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Posted by MikeV on Sunday, October 18, 2009 5:21 PM
 firesmacker wrote:

 hughes2682 wrote:
I started with a Badger 200 single action when I was 13. Still have it 30 years later and, still using it. Started with propellant cans. Now have a 25 gallon compressor (it gets used for other things as well)
Cheers
Dave

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Regards,

Jeff

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Posted by hughes2682 on Sunday, October 18, 2009 4:47 PM
Jeff,
I may be an old fart but I'm draggin' you whipper snappers kickin' an' screamin'! LOL
Cheers
Dave

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Posted by firesmacker on Sunday, October 18, 2009 4:41 PM

 hughes2682 wrote:
I started with a Badger 200 single action when I was 13. Still have it 30 years later and, still using it. Started with propellant cans. Now have a 25 gallon compressor (it gets used for other things as well)
Cheers
Dave

YOU'RE 43?!?!?! HAHAHAHA. You are an old fart. I'm 41... Disapprove [V]Big Smile [:D]

Regards,

Jeff

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Posted by hughes2682 on Sunday, October 18, 2009 1:12 PM
I started with a Badger 200 single action when I was 13. Still have it 30 years later and, still using it. Started with propellant cans. Now have a 25 gallon compressor (it gets used for other things as well)
Cheers
Dave

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Posted by JOE RIX on Saturday, October 10, 2009 7:08 PM
 I started out with a Binks Wren that my older brother gave me in 1977. I still have it and I still use it. I now use an Aztek A430 but I just sent that in for replacement/upgrade to an A470 when the trigger mechanism stopped functioning. I had the A430 for 12 yrs and Testors agreed to replacement it no problem. So, in the mean time I'm using that old Binks which perfers admirally. I'm also looking into an upgrade though.  

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Posted by satch_ip on Saturday, October 10, 2009 5:30 PM
Badger 200 with the propellent cans.  Then I bought a Miller compressor, which I still have, btw.  I bent a few tips and blew a few o rings in that old 200.
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Posted by firesmacker on Saturday, October 10, 2009 5:24 PM
Maybe it was a 350. I pulled it out a little while ago and there are no markings on it.
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Posted by Bgrigg on Saturday, October 10, 2009 4:53 PM

Um, Badger 150 is a dual action. It's the siphon version of the 100LG and I don't think it's ever been sold as a package with propel.

Do you mean 350?

So long folks!

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Posted by firesmacker on Saturday, October 10, 2009 4:26 PM

Badger 150. Got it from Hobby Town. Came in a package with a can of propellent. I wasn't thrilled with it. Didn't take long for me to realize that single action ain't my style. That was my first AB. After that I bought a 155, I liked it but still didn't like the whole siphon fed deal. Cleaning was a long and involved process. A few weeks later, I watched Swanny's first DVD. I bought a 360 and never looked back. So I guess I pretty much cut my teeth on the Badger 360.

Regards,

Jeff

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Posted by Kolja94 on Saturday, October 10, 2009 1:00 PM

Aztek A370 (I think, I don't REALLY remember the number).  Still have it, packed up from everything else since I moved a year ago and then deployed, so I havent had a chance to get up and running again.... but I did move up to a Paasche a couple years ago :)

Karl

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Posted by styrene on Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:55 PM

My first and only airbrush has been the Paasche H.  I bought it almost 35 years ago, and it's still going strong.

Gip

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Posted by 9x19mm on Friday, October 9, 2009 4:38 AM
My first was a Paasche H, then Badger 200 and a Badger 100g.  Im glad I kept the Paashe H as both Badgers arent working.  I need to send them in to have them looked at.  But these days Im more into 1 144 airliners and the Paasche H works fine.  I do miss the control of a double action though.
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Posted by jimbot58 on Thursday, October 8, 2009 12:53 AM
My first is Badgers 350-although much of my original is basicly gone. Over 15+ years, I have replaced seals, nozzles, needles and tips and even the center handle assembly which encloses the trigger valve so all that's left of the original is really the back part of the handle. But it is still used daily, though now I am learning to use a double action brush I bought at Harbor freight.

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Posted by HSteve on Wednesday, October 7, 2009 9:20 PM

About 10 years ago, I received a Christmas present, an AZTEK double action - from my ex-wife -  She threw that out along with ALL my tools(hobby, car, ALL my tools, 1500 bucks +/- worth)  when we divorcedCensored [censored]Evil [}:)].

I never really learned how to use the thing, only used it twice or three times before a really lucky gutter bum found it.

It sounds like a lot of you like the VL to begin with - I'm looking for an inexpensive set-up - I'm building my first kit since the divorce - took me that long to decide if I want my CURRENT ex-wife to throw my newly acquired stuff out!Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, October 7, 2009 9:13 PM
The same one I use today... I have had this airbrush for 21+ years now and while it could use replacement, it still soldiers on for  me. A Badger Model 350.

 

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Posted by Phil_H on Wednesday, October 7, 2009 8:59 PM

My first would have been a Humbrol "airbrush" back in the mid 70's. This was very similar to the Badger 250 series. more like a garden sprayer than an airbrush. It did actually have a cam arrangement around the air nozzle which could be rotated to limit how far the button went down, for a limited amount of air pressure control.

Second, a Badger 350, still using canned air. It was around this time that I discovered the tyre valve adaptor. Spray for about 1 minute, pump for 5 minutes, spray for 1 minute - I think you get the picture. I think I actually wore out that foot pump - eventually it had a groove in the back where the rod goes into the cylinder rather than a central hole. Air out of a car tyre also has the most wonderful cat pee-like aroma. Still it was cheaper than canned air. Unfortunately the old 350 seems to have gone.

Next was a Badger 200, which was my introduction to internal mix airbrushes. By this time I had acquired a compressor, and this was another huge leap. After being accustomed to canned air, the ability to vary your air pressure was simply amazing. However, I think I only used it a handful of times before having an extended break from modelling.

After returning to modelling, I did, out of interest, pick up a $30.00 Chinese made Badger 150 lookalike. While it does work, I think I only test-sprayed it once and it's remained in its box.

Up to this point, they were all siphon feed brushes which required a considerable amount of time and care in cleaning.

Enter my current "workhorse", a Sparmax SP-35C, a gravity feed, double action model. I can use as little as a couple of drops of paint (less paint than I would lose cleaning one of the above a/b's) and it takes very little effort to clean.

 

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Posted by Lacquer Head on Wednesday, October 7, 2009 3:39 PM

Badger 175, Omni 4000, 100LG all sold.

Moved up to Iwata HP-CS and Revolution CR.

Wish I still had the 175, it was very versatile.

"Lacquer Head feeds his one desire, Lacquer Head sets his brain on fire."

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Posted by I make stuff on Wednesday, October 7, 2009 1:28 PM
Badger 200, still have it, but I recently moved up to a 100LG and haven't looked back.  It's not that the result is easier, it's the cleanup that makes airbrushing, even a touch up, so much less of a hassle.
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Posted by ruddratt on Wednesday, October 7, 2009 12:23 PM
My first was a badger 350. Got pretty good at it, too. Used that puppy for quite a few years.

Mike

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Posted by Gigatron on Wednesday, October 7, 2009 12:05 PM

My first was a Testor's; came with a hose, a can of propellant and some paints.  That was some 20 years ago.  Started out doing simple T-shirts, then kind of moved on to different hobbies.

Then when I got back into the hobby a few years ago, I jumped in with an Iwata Eclipse HP BCS.  Then a Revolution BR and now an Eclipse CS, which is my main workhorse.

-Fred

 

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Posted by keilau on Tuesday, October 6, 2009 7:59 PM
 HawkeyeHobbies wrote:

 

I started with a Paasche H 20 plus years ago. It is the second one down on Hawkeye's list.

It did what I needed. Nice finish without brush marks. Or covering larger area (1:16 scale tank) relatively fast. I found changing color, upkeeping and cleaning the airbrush a drag. I used it very sparsely and stayed with brush or rattle can most of the time. I still have the Paashce H in very good condition, but I soldemly touch it.

A few years ago, Airbrush City came out with a Silentaire Scorpion-1 clone for $69. (The manuals are identical.) I purchased one immediately. Unfortunately, the compressor is too under powered for the Paasche H and airbrushing was still no fun.

The picture changed when I got the Iwata HP-CS. Changing color and cleaning by back flush is much easier. It is the bottom one on Hawkeye's list. It is my primary airbrush used most of the time. The CS works reasonably well with the Airbrush City compressor. Eventually, I upgraded to a Paasche DA400 twin piston compressor.

I also got two Powercat brand knock-off's. One is a bottle feed, Badger 155 clone. (Sorry, Mike) I use it primarily for clear coat or large areas.

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Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Tuesday, October 6, 2009 7:23 PM

I started with an old Binks that someone gave me. Then onto Paashes and now I primarily use my Iwata's.

 

Even that basic Binks single action airbrush proved that it was a step up from rattle cans and cheaper to use. I still use them all...well one of each. I have several VLs...I used to do T-Shirts and having one for each of the primary colors was essential.

Gerald "Hawkeye" Voigt

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Posted by Boba Fett on Tuesday, October 6, 2009 5:56 PM
Once again, the VL. And even if it's only 3 yrs old, it works as great as ever

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Posted by camo junkie on Tuesday, October 6, 2009 5:18 PM
yeah same thing mike...the paashe vl.
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Posted by MaxPower on Tuesday, October 6, 2009 5:12 PM
155 Anthem. About a year later I added an Eclipse HP-CS as I wanted to have a gravity feed. I use the 155 about 60% of the time. Actually I'm contemplating selling the Iwata and getting a  100LG as I like the trigger mechanism and feel more on the Badger.
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