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Posted by Wingman_kz on Sunday, January 10, 2010 1:22 AM

I'd say that by managing to paint that entire model with 1/4oz of thinned paint you done good. Yes Probably just about right. You'll find some colors and paints will cover better than others. Long as you got good coverage without runs or sags and didn't fill in the details you're doing ok.

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Posted by keilau on Sunday, January 10, 2010 12:07 AM

05Warrior

Thank you all for your replies. I did find it on the testors website...

http://www.testors.com/product/136644/4034/_/Amazing_Air_Camo_Paint_Set

It is listed as an enamel paint set on their website. But it does not say if it was pre-thinned at all or not. I will keep in mind in the future that I will need to thin paints before I use them. 

05Warrior, you can answer the question of "pre-thin" easily by looking at the MSDS sheet that Testors posted to meet OSHA requirement. The paints are enamel in the above linked set and they are pre-thinned. The MSDS sheet list up to 1% of Ethyl Benzene and up to 5% of Xylene in your paints. These ingradients are used to retard drying and are in the Testors thinners, see the thinner MSDS sheet. You do not find these retardant ingradients in regular Testors enamel paints. Your paints in the set are meant to be used with the airbrush and compressed air can that come with them. The can has high pressure. The Testors sets are surely extremely expensive per quantiity of paint.

Testors also have similar paint sets using acrylic paints and many other enamel paint sets too. Look carefully on what you are using. If the link that you posted earlier is correct. It is an enamel set with pre-thinned paints.

This is the acrylic set:

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Posted by Bgrigg on Saturday, January 9, 2010 5:19 PM

HSteve

This post may be off topic, but out of curiosity, I figured out that if you want to paint a house in FS36375(light ghost gray), the MM equivalent would end up costing 822.25 a gallon!!!!!!!!!!Censored(3.29 per 1/2 oz bottle, X256)

Does anyone think that is not only ridiculous, but somewhat criminal?Angry

How is it criminal? Other than criminally stupid of someone to buy house paint that way? I would never choose to buy house paint in 1/2 oz bottles, nor would I choose to use hobby paints for that anymore than I would try to use Benjamin Moore to paint a model.

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Posted by MikeV on Saturday, January 9, 2010 3:58 PM

HSteve

This post may be off topic, but out of curiosity, I figured out that if you want to paint a house in FS36375(light ghost gray), the MM equivalent would end up costing 822.25 a gallon!!!!!!!!!!Censored(3.29 per 1/2 oz bottle, X256)

Does anyone think that is not only ridiculous, but somewhat criminal?Angry

That is why we use Behr, Dutch Boy or another latex paint. Big Smile

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Posted by HSteve on Saturday, January 9, 2010 3:40 PM

This post may be off topic, but out of curiosity, I figured out that if you want to paint a house in FS36375(light ghost gray), the MM equivalent would end up costing 822.25 a gallon!!!!!!!!!!Censored(3.29 per 1/2 oz bottle, X256)

Does anyone think that is not only ridiculous, but somewhat criminal?Angry

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Posted by 05Warrior on Saturday, January 9, 2010 3:16 PM

Bgrigg

Weird, 'cause if you go here and click on view larger image it says acrylic...

 

That is weird because the box says acrylic, but if you look at the bottles that are shown in the box, the bottles say enamel. I looked closer at the box that I have, and it does say enamel on the box that I have. That is weird. 

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Posted by Bgrigg on Saturday, January 9, 2010 3:03 PM

Weird, 'cause if you go here and click on view larger image it says acrylic...

So long folks!

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Posted by 05Warrior on Saturday, January 9, 2010 2:48 PM

Thank you all for your replies. I did find it on the testors website...

http://www.testors.com/product/136644/4034/_/Amazing_Air_Camo_Paint_Set

It is listed as an enamel paint set on their website. But it does not say if it was pre-thinned at all or not. I will keep in mind in the future that I will need to thin paints before I use them. 

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Posted by Bgrigg on Saturday, January 9, 2010 2:31 PM

Well Testors' website is as useless as always. I did find an online seller of the Amazing Air kits that had a picture large enough to zoom in and read Acrylic Paint, even though they are in the enamel bottles. I'm going to guess that they actually are the prethinned Acryl line as they don't include a thinner for it and this kit seems designed as a starter kit.

In that case, it doesn't surprise me that you used up all the paint. They didn't give you very much to begin with!

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Posted by jimbot58 on Saturday, January 9, 2010 2:11 PM

If you look at the kit, it shows the bottle of paint attached to the airbrush, so I think it has to have been pre-thinned. My guess is that the amount of paint you used in this instance seems about right for the model you built. Keep in mind that many paints you buy in the future off the shelf will most likely need to be thinned to spray. They will, however, most likely last through several models....

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Posted by MikeV on Saturday, January 9, 2010 1:57 PM

05Warrior

 

So I guess the general consensus is that paint should be thinned prior to painting? And in thinning the paint, that will make 1/4 oz bottle last longer. 

Yes paint is normally thinned at about a 2:1 or 3:1 ratio of paint to thinner on average in my experience.

The reason why is to make it thin enough that the airbrush atomizes it well and causes it to spray smoothly onto the model. If it is already really thin from the bottle then you probably won't need to thin it at all, it all depends. Most people say to thin it to about the consistency of milk which is a pretty good reference.

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Posted by 05Warrior on Saturday, January 9, 2010 1:43 PM

MikeV

 

 HawkeyeHobbies:

 

I'm amazed that your airbrush would even spray that paint without being thinned.  How much psi are you using? 120psi???

 

 

I agree with Gerald. I used to airbrush T-shirts with Createx at 60-70 psi but they were pre-thinned as well. That enamel must have been thin. Surprise

Looking at that picture you posted I am wondering if they were pre-thinned from the factory?

They could have been, I am not sure. That is why I posted pics, as I am trying to figure this all out. So I guess the general consensus is that paint should be thinned prior to painting? And in thinning the paint, that will make 1/4 oz bottle last longer. 

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Posted by MikeV on Saturday, January 9, 2010 1:07 PM

HawkeyeHobbies

I'm amazed that your airbrush would even spray that paint without being thinned.  How much psi are you using? 120psi???

I agree with Gerald. I used to airbrush T-shirts with Createx at 60-70 psi but they were pre-thinned as well. That enamel must have been thin. Surprise

Looking at that picture you posted I am wondering if they were pre-thinned from the factory?

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by 05Warrior on Saturday, January 9, 2010 12:33 PM

I used a cheap airbrush kit that came with a can of compressed air. This is the kit that I bought....

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Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Saturday, January 9, 2010 12:27 PM

I'm amazed that your airbrush would even spray that paint without being thinned.  How much psi are you using? 120psi???

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Posted by MikeV on Saturday, January 9, 2010 11:57 AM

05Warrior

No, I did not thin it with any thinner. Is that something that I should have done? 

That would depend on how thick the paint was. What paint was it? Was it enamel or acrylic?

 

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Posted by 05Warrior on Saturday, January 9, 2010 11:55 AM

This was the paint that I used. It is Testors brand, so it does not need to be thinned? 

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Posted by Bgrigg on Saturday, January 9, 2010 11:47 AM

Yes, no and maybe.

It all depends on the brand of paint. Some paints are "pre-thinned" out of the bottle. Testors MM Acryl line, for instance. But most are designed to have thinners added just before painting as thinners help the paint cure faster which means that if the thinner is added to early in the paint process the consumer will just get a glob of colored mush in the bottle.

 

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Posted by 05Warrior on Saturday, January 9, 2010 11:25 AM

No, I did not thin it with any thinner. Is that something that I should have done? 

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Posted by MikeV on Saturday, January 9, 2010 11:14 AM

That sounds a little heavy if you mean 1/4 oz of paint plus the thinner. If you meant 1/4 oz of thinned paint in the airbrush then that sounds about right but it's hard to say unless I did the actual painting myself to compare. By the way it won't be long and I can tell you. Wink As long as it is even coverage and it is not on too thick it will be fine.

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Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Saturday, January 9, 2010 11:11 AM

Did you thin your paint?

Typically depending on size of a bottle and the surface of a model it can require a full or nearly a full bottle to get complete even coverage.

There are models that consume most of the base color(s) you purchase to complete it. However, on the norm (for me) I rarely use a full bottle.

I still can't fathom are the guys who purchase paints for a specific build then discard the remaining amount after the model is done. Even if they are doing a follow on project using the same colors. Tongue Tied

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How much paint??
Posted by 05Warrior on Saturday, January 9, 2010 10:27 AM

So I just finished my first model ever... See this link...

/forums/t/124357.aspx

My question is this... How much paint does one typically use on a model this size? This is a 1/35th scale LAV-25. The reason I am asking, is because I bought a really cheap air brush setup. I used a whole container (1/4 fl. oz) to spray the whole thing in green. I am not sure if this is typical, or if I used too much. I am really new to everything with modeling, so I am just curious as to how much paint everyone else uses on a typical model of this size? 

Thanks! Beer

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