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Calling Airbursh and Compressor Gurus

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  • Member since
    January 2007
  • From: Regina, Saskatchewan Canada
Calling Airbursh and Compressor Gurus
Posted by PaPa-John on Monday, January 11, 2010 12:15 PM

I paint by brush but looking at adding an airbrush and compressor to my inventory.  I have been reading and digesting the forum message on different types out there.  I have a line on the following airbrush set:

Iwata Deluxe Airbrush Set which consists of an Iwata Studio Series Smart Jet Compressor (photo shows regulator and moisture trap on the compressor), Iwata Eclipse CS airbrush - gravity feed 1/3 oz. cup.

Also includes:

Airbush from Scratch DVD

Artool Freehand template  and video.

10 bottles of Meda Com-Art Colours (good for practice

etc.

Appears there is everything one needs.  I want to add the items knowing that they will last me, hopefully, as long as I can assemble plastic.

Price appears to be decent as it is presently on sale.  Where I was looking at the set, the sales people quoted the retail price, but when I mention the sale price on the internet, they will match it as this is where they get their suppies.

What opinion do the Guru's have.

John

John

On the bench: 1:72 Hobbycraft CF-105 Avro Arrow.   1:24 Revell Dodge Superbee 2n1.

  • Member since
    April 2004
  • From: Windy city, US
Posted by keilau on Monday, January 11, 2010 1:10 PM

Good choice of equipment quality. Similar set sells for about $350 in the US.

I use the Iwata Eclipse HP-CS and like it better than others in its price range.

The Smart Jet is a good choice is reliability is your prime objective. A good alternative, similarly priced but slightly higher powered, is the Sparmax TC-2000 compressor.

  • Member since
    October 2007
  • From: Scotland
Posted by Milairjunkie on Monday, January 11, 2010 1:16 PM

I am not by any means a "guru", but I did do my homework & research the subject before getting involved. I would say that your choice of Iwata compressor  & Iwata gravity fed brush are right on the money - just be sure to order an airline to avoid some bitter disappointment when your kit arrives!

For modeling I would suggest that Tamiya Acrylics are easy to use, easy to clean up & easily available (although no doubt some will disagree). 

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    May 2005
  • From: Left forever
Posted by Bgrigg on Monday, January 11, 2010 1:23 PM

That's a good combination. There are cheaper sets available, but those will also be "lesser" sets. You mostly get what you pay for when it comes to airbrushes and compressors.

Ditto on the airhose, and I would suggest buying a spare needle, as they can be easily damaged! Ordering the spare right away will save you time and money in the future. I'm strictly a Badger Man, but Keilau can advise if there are other spares you might need.

So long folks!

  • Member since
    January 2007
  • From: Regina, Saskatchewan Canada
Posted by PaPa-John on Monday, January 11, 2010 1:35 PM

keilau, Milairjunkie and Bgrigg

Thanks greatly for your prompt replies.  I researched this and have a photo of the package in my possession.  I also had a look at the box set at the local shop and an air hose is included in the package.  It appears to be a complete package and setup right out of the box.

There was the metion of a .35 mm needle and nozzle  in the set.  Also mentioned a .50 mm nozzle and needle, but not sure is this is included or not. 

From the $350. US quote, the C$ cost is $100. more.

I did't jump at it right away, but wanted to get some feedback first. 

Again, thanks for your replies.

John

John

 

John

On the bench: 1:72 Hobbycraft CF-105 Avro Arrow.   1:24 Revell Dodge Superbee 2n1.

  • Member since
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  • From: Scotland
Posted by Milairjunkie on Monday, January 11, 2010 1:41 PM

I noticed "Airbush from Scratch DVD" & forgot to mention something - for airbrush techniques, from basic to advanced, stripping, cleaning.............., You Tube is probably one of the better places to find information.

They say a picture is worth a thousand words - how many words is a video worth?

  • Member since
    January 2007
  • From: Regina, Saskatchewan Canada
Posted by PaPa-John on Monday, January 11, 2010 1:48 PM

Milairjunkie.   I hear where you're coming from.  I have looked at some of the You Tube videos and have airbrushing  sites bookmark.  Been looking at this. 

I guess, I might have to bite the bullet and pick one up.  Don't imagine I could find a better deal. 

John

John

On the bench: 1:72 Hobbycraft CF-105 Avro Arrow.   1:24 Revell Dodge Superbee 2n1.

  • Member since
    April 2004
  • From: Windy city, US
Posted by keilau on Monday, January 11, 2010 8:24 PM

PaPa-John

keilau, Milairjunkie and Bgrigg

Thanks greatly for your prompt replies.  I researched this and have a photo of the package in my possession.  I also had a look at the box set at the local shop and an air hose is included in the package.  It appears to be a complete package and setup right out of the box.

There was the metion of a .35 mm needle and nozzle  in the set.  Also mentioned a .50 mm nozzle and needle, but not sure is this is included or not. 

From the $350. US quote, the C$ cost is $100. more.

I did't jump at it right away, but wanted to get some feedback first. 

Again, thanks for your replies.

John

John, first, I am no expert, much less a guru. Just a weekend modeler who is interested in the technical aspect of airbrushing. I look to Phil_H, Mike_V and Don Wheeler for real airbrushing advices.

The HP-CS comes with the 0.35 mm needle/nozzle as standard and the 0.5 mm is not included, but can be ordered as option. The 0.35 is good for general purpose modeling that I use the most. It is NOT practical to change needle size on a single airbrush. Too much chance for inadvertant damage. (Unless you have an Aztek. No comment.)

The Iwata Revolution HP-CR has a 0.5 mm needle/nozzle and is cheaper if you want one. The CR is very popular among the British modelers.

I don't have a CR, but I recently purchased a Badger Patriot with the fine 0.5 mm nozzle. I found it complement the Eclipse well when I need to spray a larger model such as my 1/16 scale tank. If you want a larger nozzle, the Iwata Revolution or the Badger Patriot are both viable options.

The larger nozzle allows me to thin the paint a little less and use higher compressor pressure. Thus, I can paint a larger area slightly faster. 

  • Member since
    December 2009
Posted by brickshooter on Wednesday, January 13, 2010 3:57 PM

I think that the original setup looks pretty good. The only thing I'd add is an external MAC vale air conroller.   Iwata sells theirs for $25.   One can get a MAC vale clone for $10 and free shipping from TCPGlobal.  

And for about $10, one can also pick up a set of "airbrush" toothbrush.  They're miniature steel brushes used to clean out those hard to get to areas.  

And personally, I like the .35mm needle better.

But all the other things such as template, video, 10 bottles of color that came with the package are near to useless for a modeler.

 

  • Member since
    January 2007
  • From: Regina, Saskatchewan Canada
Posted by PaPa-John on Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:15 PM

brickshooter

I think that the original setup looks pretty good. The only thing I'd add is an external MAC vale air conroller.   Iwata sells theirs for $25.   One can get a MAC vale clone for $10 and free shipping from TCPGlobal.  

And for about $10, one can also pick up a set of "airbrush" toothbrush.  They're miniature steel brushes used to clean out those hard to get to areas.  

And personally, I like the .35mm needle better.

But all the other things such as template, video, 10 bottles of color that came with the package are near to useless for a modeler.

 

Thanks for the input.  I anticipated the paints probably would,t be suitable for modelers, but at least I could use the to practice to get the knack and feel of using an airbrush and not waste the oother paints.

I am still debating with myself over what to do.  The wifey says its no problem if I pick the items up.

John

John

On the bench: 1:72 Hobbycraft CF-105 Avro Arrow.   1:24 Revell Dodge Superbee 2n1.

  • Member since
    December 2009
Posted by brickshooter on Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:18 PM

Oh by the way, the Iwata Smart Jet is fantastic.  Very quiet. Very portable.  The way they set up their moisture filer is very nicely done.

  • Member since
    May 2005
Posted by goodidea on Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:14 PM

"And for about $10, one can also pick up a set of "airbrush" toothbrush.  They're miniature steel brushes used to clean out those hard to get to areas."

Or you could go to a drug store, big box store,(or chemists), and pick up some dental tooth reamers. They come in various sizes. Great for tiny nozzles.

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