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MikeV, You Were Right...
Posted by HSteve on Saturday, February 6, 2010 7:43 PM

I went by my local art-supply store today, and they happened to stock Iwata, Paasche, and Badger 'brushes...

Going back to the thread I started about buying an airbrush, I started looking into the Badger 365(?) Crescendo...

Held in my hand all 3 models I was looking at -

Paasche HHmm

Paasche VLYes

Badger...CoolYesYes

The Badger feels/fits my hand well, butter-smooth action compared to the P.'s

Tiny paint cup, though.

I'm going w/ the Badger when THE MAN cuts my refund check.

 

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Posted by MikeV on Saturday, February 6, 2010 11:17 PM

Tiny cup? You mean the metal one that comes with it?

They also have a glass jar if you need more paint but what goes in that 1/4 oz. cup will paint a lot.

Did I recommend the Crescendo? I don't remember since I talk airbrushes so much. Big Smile

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Posted by Bgrigg on Saturday, February 6, 2010 11:48 PM

If they have the 105 Patriot, get that instead, MUCH nicer airbrush! Yes

So long folks!

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Posted by MikeV on Saturday, February 6, 2010 11:57 PM

Bgrigg

If they have the 105 Patriot, get that instead, MUCH nicer airbrush! Yes

Ditto

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Torio on Sunday, February 7, 2010 3:38 AM

Just to bring some animation to this thread, Hsteve, you said they also had Iwatas in the store. What about them ?

Thank you all for coming José

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Posted by hkshooter on Sunday, February 7, 2010 9:57 AM

Torio

Just to bring some animation to this thread, Hsteve, you said they also had Iwatas in the store. What about them ?

I've been silently wondering the same thing.Whistling

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Posted by HSteve on Sunday, February 7, 2010 3:03 PM

 

 

Mike, we discussed a few models, including Badg. and Paasche...

I got home yesterday from Denver's air & space museum(REALLY COOL),

only to discover my State tax Refund check sitting in my mailbox...ToastYes

I ordered The Paasche Millenium from Bear Air, Should be here next week!

I've got a buddy in the restaurant biz, and he said he'll give me a 20(?)lb CO2 tank...

just have to pick up a regulator, and I'll be 'brushing for around $100-120...

I'm psyched to play with the brushCool

I went w/ the Millenium mainly 'cause the price was right for me, and widely available parts; The set I ordered, the MIL-SET, includes the #3 needle. P. says it can go from 1/64" to 1"...

If I find I need a new needle(#1 or 5) or other parts, I can pick them up not 5 miles away from my pad...

73 bucks, all done and said(so far) for the brush set and CO2...

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Posted by HSteve on Sunday, February 7, 2010 3:22 PM

hkshooter

 

 Torio:

 

Just to bring some animation to this thread, Hsteve, you said they also had Iwatas in the store. What about them ?

 

 

I've been silently wondering the same thing.Whistling

hkshooter

 

 Torio:

 

Just to bring some animation to this thread, Hsteve, you said they also had Iwatas in the store. What about them ?

 

 

I've been silently wondering the same thing.Whistling

 

I have to be honest, the Iwatas were way too expensive for me to even consider...Retail from $150 - 500+ in their case...

I spent almost an hour talking airbrushes with the salesperson; She was great!

I came to the conclusion, With the help of the salesperson, that spending 100+ bucks on my first airbrush was not logical...

The Millenium is a step up from the VL, but still well witin my budget. Justifying 150 dollars at this point just didn't make sense to me. If I find at a later date that the Millen. doesn't accomplish what I need it to, then I'll look into a better 'brush...

Time will tell, I guess.

" I'm the navigator. I have a right to know where I'm going. "

- Don Eiseli,  Astronaut, Apollo 7

 

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Posted by hkshooter on Sunday, February 7, 2010 5:29 PM

Good point on price. I forget that some retailers want full MSRP for their stuff.
I got my Iwata Revolution CR for $99 in my LHS a couple of years ago and it included the hose, can of air and adapter and a bottle of Acrylic AB cleaner. Seen them on ebay for lots less.
I bought my Eclipse CS for about $50 IIRC, used from a board memeber. It works like a champ. I bought a second Iwata Revolution BR for those big jobs and it also included all the extras, also for $99 from the LHS about a year ago.

I've seen many deals  better than these even at the time I bought them but I decided to buy from the shop because a friend of mine worked there. Regardless, the shop still went out of buisness.

I noticed that you said you might buy a "better" airbrush later if needs dictate. There is nothing wrong with the choice you made at all so don't think it inferior to others. I was only curious because you mentioned it as one that you looked at and then never mentioned it again.

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Posted by HSteve on Sunday, February 7, 2010 6:00 PM

hkshooter

 

I noticed that you said you might buy a "better" airbrush later if needs dictate. There is nothing wrong with the choice you made at all so don't think it inferior to others. I was only curious because you mentioned it as one that you looked at and then never mentioned it again.

Hk,

I'm going to sleep really well w/ my purchase...

I think that the Millen. is about as good as it gets when it comes to a "starter" 'brush...

As far as I'm concerned, A 1/64" line us going to take care of any paint scheme, in any scale that I build(1/48 WWII, !/72 modern).

The point the salesperson made was thus:

1. Unless you are a professional 'brush artist, a single action, $50 model will do most things, albeit not as well...

2. Same as above.

3. A good quality basic double-action 'brush should be all the average hobbyist could need...

I went maybe a 1/2-step up from the VL., & went w/ the Millenium...

Why?

MADE IN USA(I'm Canadian)

Felt better in my hand, compared to other models...

$73 price tag, for a Top-of-the-Line airbrush...

Easy parts availability...most parts are interchangeable between the VL and H. If you can't find parts locally, They're just a website away.Cool

I know if you ask 5 people regarding their A/B preference, you'll get at least 7 different answers...Indifferent

So I went with my gut feeling...

" I'm the navigator. I have a right to know where I'm going. "

- Don Eiseli,  Astronaut, Apollo 7

 

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Posted by hkshooter on Sunday, February 7, 2010 9:27 PM

I think you did just fine.
I still have the second AB I ever bought, a VL. I never use it anymore but every so often I think about pulling it out for old times sake and hooking air up to it. After using gravity feeds for four years though, I think I'd end up frustrated and angry with it.

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Posted by keilau on Sunday, February 7, 2010 11:06 PM

HSteve

 hkshooter:
 Torio:

Just to bring some animation to this thread, Hsteve, you said they also had Iwatas in the store. What about them ?

I've been silently wondering the same thing.Whistling

I have to be honest, the Iwatas were way too expensive for me to even consider...Retail from $150 - 500+ in their case...

I spent almost an hour talking airbrushes with the salesperson; She was great!

I came to the conclusion, With the help of the salesperson, that spending 100+ bucks on my first airbrush was not logical...

The Millenium is a step up from the VL, but still well witin my budget. Justifying 150 dollars at this point just didn't make sense to me. If I find at a later date that the Millen. doesn't accomplish what I need it to, then I'll look into a better 'brush...

Time will tell, I guess.

The Paasche Millenium sounds like a good starter aribrush for those who perfer siphon feed airbrush. It comes with 3 sizes of nozzles and a self-centering tip. All sound good.  It is priced similar to the Badger 155.  We have a lot of feedback on the Badger 155 already, particularly the Don Wheeler web site. It would be wonderful if you can come back and share your Millenium impression.

For those who want a gravity feed airbrush, there are the Iwata Revolution CR4500 ($73), The Paasche Talon ($74) and the Badger Patroit 105 ($74), both of which are very popular with modelers. You don't have to spend over $150 if you want an Iwata.

Of course, there are many good choices at the over $100 range too. I paid $97 for my Iwata Eclipse HP-CS at a Hobby Lobby using their 40% off coupon a year ago. When considering the model kit we are going to buy in a year, it pays to invest in a good tool that you can learn off. I believe all the above mentioned airbrush fall into this catagory.

Good luck with your new AB. Come back to tell us how you like the Millenium.

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Posted by HSteve on Monday, February 8, 2010 7:40 AM

Thanks for all the input, folks, now I need to find a regulator, but shouldn't be too difficult or expensive...

I'll definitely let y'all know how it does as my skill gets better.

BTW,

Thanks, Co. Dept. of revenue for the late Christmas present...

 

" I'm the navigator. I have a right to know where I'm going. "

- Don Eiseli,  Astronaut, Apollo 7

 

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Posted by keilau on Monday, February 8, 2010 11:49 AM

HSteve

Thanks for all the input, folks, now I need to find a regulator, but shouldn't be too difficult or expensive...

This is what you are looking for at Coast Airbrush.

I know a few of the experts on this forum like CO2 tank for its quietness and dry gas. I used cheap airbrush compressor (Paasche DA400) myself. It has the convinence of a reliable power source in the US.

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Posted by HSteve on Monday, February 8, 2010 6:39 PM

I've found a regulator for $43(+/-) HERE...

It's designed for BEER!BeerBow Down...

Maybe 20 bucks worth of parts at a plumbing supply store, and I'll be sitting pretty...

" I'm the navigator. I have a right to know where I'm going. "

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Posted by Bgrigg on Monday, February 8, 2010 7:00 PM

Steve, linky no worky!

So long folks!

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Posted by HSteve on Monday, February 8, 2010 7:09 PM

Try again, round-eye,Drinks

I think I fixed it...

" I'm the navigator. I have a right to know where I'm going. "

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Posted by keilau on Monday, February 8, 2010 7:38 PM

HSteve

I've found a regulator for $43(+/-) HERE...

It's designed for BEER!BeerBow Down...

Maybe 20 bucks worth of parts at a plumbing supply store, and I'll be sitting pretty...

Good find and the price is right. When I added an airtank to the Paasche DA400 compressor, I need a check valve and could not find the 1/4" size at any plumbing store. I finally got one from a brewary supplier too.

Many other forum will enjoy reading how you put the CO2 system together too. Yes

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