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Tamiya X-20A 250ml discontinued?

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 2:10 PM

yes, we kind of got off-topic there didn't we... We solved the world's language problem though!

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 2:06 PM

Feel free, my question & suspicions have been answered, which is appreciated.

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Posted by Killjoy on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 2:01 PM

Hehe...awesome!  I suppose we'd better stop thread hijacking this before it degenerates into a total geek fest!  Have a good one!

Chris

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 1:23 PM

Killjoy

 

 Milairjunkie:

 

I reckon that with most of the world talking digitally, we would be as well to adopt binary as our new language;

01101100011010010110101101100101   01101000011001010110110001101100

Don't see the forum software catching that one.

 

 

01010011 01101001 01101100 01101100 01111001 00100000 01010010 01100001 01100010 01100010 01101001 01110100 00100001

 

01010100 01110010 01101001 01111000 00100000 01100001 01110010 01100101 00100000 01100110 01101111 01110010 00100000 01101011 01101001 01100100 01110011 00100001

I may be a designer, but I can still "google up" a translator!! Geeked

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 1:19 PM

Oh no, they're going binary on me... I'm just a lowly graphic designer, I just make things look nice, binary is too computer-programmy for me!

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Posted by Killjoy on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 1:17 PM

Milairjunkie

I reckon that with most of the world talking digitally, we would be as well to adopt binary as our new language;

01101100011010010110101101100101   01101000011001010110110001101100

Don't see the forum software catching that one.

01010011 01101001 01101100 01101100 01111001 00100000 01010010 01100001 01100010 01100010 01101001 01110100 00100001

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 12:51 PM

I reckon that with most of the world talking digitally, we would be as well to adopt binary as our new language;

01101100011010010110101101100101   01101000011001010110110001101100

Don't see the forum software catching that one.

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Posted by Bgrigg on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 12:48 PM

Ah, the new world standard!

Oceania has never been at war with Eurasia. We've always been at war with Eastasia.

So long folks!

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Posted by Killjoy on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 12:38 PM

Too gutteral!  Nope, Esperanto it is!  The new world standard and first step towards global peace and harmony!

 

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 7:37 AM

Oh here we go - Esperanto resurfaces! Maybe Klingon is next...

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Posted by Killjoy on Tuesday, March 2, 2010 1:04 AM

Well if it's sold in the US, better slap Spanish on it as well, soon will be the predominantly spoken language here.  Maybe the whole world should switch to Esperanto, and we'd have no more language barriers or lost in translations!

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Monday, March 1, 2010 9:50 AM

Salami! It's also funny if you realize what the FOOD content of salami is! Big Smile

Yep, I imagine they'll slap a sticker over the original like Humbrol does (here anyway)... thereby covering up the other languages already on the bottle! The funny thing is I'm in a relatively english region - Saint John, in the south of the province. And this area actually has a pretty large Korean + Chinese population too.

For something like paint, I'd think a sign at the retail location would be enough, maybe a handful of leaflets if someone insists on taking something home... But I hate to bring logic into the equation!

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Posted by Bgrigg on Monday, March 1, 2010 9:42 AM

It all depends on the product. National brands, like cereal and shampoo, stuff like that has both languages, but most imported non-food stuff doesn't, including Tamiya paint. Where would they put the label? Over top fo the English? There's no bleeping room! Though I could see the Office Québécois de la Langue Française putting French labels on top of the English, I would expect that the Acadians in NB wouldn't insist on it. We don't have bilingual signs, our stop signs simply say Stop, not Stop/Arrêt, nor do they say Stop/中止!

Most food products do, though. I guess it's a federal requirement. I've seen a label put on Salami (it's funny if you realize that the French for Salami is Salami!).

So long folks!

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Monday, March 1, 2010 9:19 AM

That's what I told him! Do you guys see much bilingual labeling on products like these? I know NB is officially bilingual, but is the cost of new labeling really justified when we're talking about model paint? It's not an essential service, or a staple commodity. To be honest, I've been buying paint, from Tamiya & others, for years, and the only reading I do is making sure I've got the right colour. (And to be honest, Humbrol uses those stupid #s with no names anyway...)

And you're right, Mandarin is far more useful on your coast.

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Posted by Bgrigg on Monday, March 1, 2010 7:52 AM

Yeah, my LHS has the same story, no issues getting it, just ordered some more in.

French labeling makes no sense on my end of the country, Vance. If they're going to put another language on, it should be Mandarin!

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Monday, March 1, 2010 6:56 AM

Hey gang, had a quick conversation with my local supplier. He received a shipment within the last two months, and he has some on order again. He went to the bother of setting up a new order online and had no problems doing so.

I did, however, find out that the "language police" are cracking down on Tamiya products due to the lack of French labeling... I'm assuming that will mean a second label slapped over the original, like is done with the Humbrol tins of paint here.  It's paint folks: don't drink it, don't try to light it on fire and use the same company's thinner if you like - do we need any other labeling? I sense a dollar's increase for Canadian-only labeling... Bang Head

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Posted by ajlafleche on Friday, February 26, 2010 10:54 AM

Wonder why?

Nuff said.

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Friday, February 26, 2010 9:59 AM

While I do prefer to thin (for airbrushing) with the X20, I've seen no odd reactions with rubbing alcohol when cleaning the airbrush, so there are cheap options available. I've even heard os someone thinning with Windex glass cleaner...

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Friday, February 26, 2010 9:33 AM

I'll agree with that one - it is bad enough having to order Qty of Tamiya flat white for the likes of an XB-70, but if they plan move onto 10ml only - I had better get a pallet pre-ordered - NOT.

At the rate they charge for the 10ml containers, I think I will take some to a laborotory, ask them to reverse engineer it & make a few gallons.

Infact, stuff that - I will get it made better & make a mint selling a better, cheaper product - if only there was enough time in the day.

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Posted by Bgrigg on Friday, February 26, 2010 9:19 AM

I think I'll go and clean out my LHS just in case! While I like the results the proprietary thinner gives, I won't be buying it at the inflated rates the 10ml bottle costs!

So long folks!

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Posted by Phil_H on Friday, February 26, 2010 9:03 AM

It looks like LuckyModel in HK is still supplying all sizes and flavours of Tamiya thinners.

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Friday, February 26, 2010 8:58 AM

Thanks Gents, your assistance as always is appreciated.

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Friday, February 26, 2010 8:50 AM

I should also mention that I just picked one up at my LHS a month ago, but there's no saying that wasn't from his back-stock. I'll check with him next time I'm in.

Vance

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Posted by Phil_H on Friday, February 26, 2010 8:45 AM

As far as I know, the 250ml jugs are still available here in Australia, as well as the 40ml jars and 10 ml pots. (We lost the 23ml pots a few years back)

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Friday, February 26, 2010 8:39 AM

Appreciated, it is also still displayed on Tamiya INC's own site as well, but you know what some of the biggies are like for updating their content.

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Posted by VanceCrozier on Friday, February 26, 2010 8:34 AM

It's still showing on the Tamiya USA website...

http://www.tamiyausa.com/search.php?q=X-20A&image.x=21&image.y=7

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Tamiya X-20A 250ml discontinued?
Posted by Milairjunkie on Friday, February 26, 2010 8:28 AM

I have been trying to source 250ml X-20A in the UK recently & nobody seems to have any, so I called the UK Tamiya distributor & enquired, only to be informed that the 10ml is the only size now provided by Tamiya, the others having been discontinued?

Does anyone know if 250ml (81040) is still available in other countries? Something tells me the UK importer may be trying to pull a fast one & increase their revenue?

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