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Models , and House - Paint .
Posted by tankerbuilder on Monday, September 30, 2013 3:58 PM

No , the title isn't a mis - print or typo .

    Did you know that the color  U.S.N. - 5 -  H Haze Grey ,  can be made at " Home Depot ? Yup ! that,s what I said . Home Depot . My client saw fit to send me the paint swatches for his ships . One is the ARIZONA (5 - N - Sea Blue ) and the other is the U.S.S. Kidd , on display in Louisiana . Now The Kidd is the Grey one of course . He got a paint chip from somewheres ( gosh , I hope he didn't chip paint off the ship ! ) and went to his local H.D. and had the paint matched with their paint matching machine .So he sent me the specs and I had the mixes done here at my H.D. They came out okay too . Now when I spray them I have to take this " Behr  " House paint and thin it with distilled water ( it's acrylic ) and then spray it on with my airbrush .

 I found quite by accident that the color is the same as M.M. Navy Light grey . What do I mean by that .Well , I sprayed the ship with Rustoleum primer after I made the necessary repairs and while I was touching some not to visible spots I spilled the bottle .You guessed it , all over the port side of the already painted ship .All I could do is clean what I could and let the rest dry and start over . See , even those of us who make money at this have unexpected shop incidents (did I tell you about the X-Acto stuck in my nose ? I will on a later date , Just don't sneeze uncontrollably while holding one , I will tell you that). Anyway , where was I .Oh , I let the paint dry in our TEXAS sun and viola I couldn't find where the spilled paint and the intentional paint seperated by shade .How about that ?

 I checked carefully by making swatches on the back of business cards .You know those pesky things ,usually in white we always have to many of in our wallets and purses ( a nod to the lady modelers here ). Well , I took them to my H.D.store and they were a near perfect match . This too was fortunate . You can recycle All those unwanted business cards as paint swatches , just make sure it's the white ones . So there you have it .Oh , you can tint and lighten or darken this paint with the test bottles you can get there at H.D. or even LOWES ! And it sticks to a properly prepared model surface like Gorilla Glue , believe me . It also , when dry , sands as hard too ! So let this be a clue as to where you can get a large amount of paint (for those 1/200 ships ) and if you like me , have more than two of a whole group of 1/350 scale ships . Hey , they will all be the same color , how about that .

   Model On ! !      Tanker - Builder

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  • From: near Nashville, TN
Posted by TarnShip on Monday, September 30, 2013 5:44 PM

your friend probably went here http://www.shipcamouflage.com/

and got some of these

or used 595A or B like this

to make a bunch of these from cardstock and a paper cutter (in case you don't have enough business cards)

store in a baseball/Nascar card binder like this

Then pop out any batch of cards you want when you go to Lowe's (I use Lowe's, you use Home Depot, same deal)

If enough of us do this, then when the GSA stops selling physical FS books soon,,,,,,we will still have a way to communicate colors to each other to help each other out.

I started this 3 years ago, using Acrylics, because then we can tell someone what Acrylic paint to buy, and he can order it and get it shipped to him,,,,,something that some people can't do today with Enamels.

I only have about 400 chips so far, with 500 to be done by the Murfreesboro model show,,,,,,leaving about 2,000 still to go

Rex

almost gone

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Tuesday, October 1, 2013 7:31 AM

Hey ,Rex :

  Now that's a great idea .Why didn't I think of that ? Oh , well , you learn from others , no matter what your age ,  right ? Thanks for the idea and I will be sure to get those books tomorrow .

   I have about six hundred fifty swatches carefully taped to the inside of file folders in a cabinet . But , Somehow after building all those civilian ships , my Naval collection was wanting . Not now though ! Thanks again .    Model On ! Tanker - Builder  

   Doc

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, October 1, 2013 9:18 AM

In order to print out a color  reference, don't you need a color calibrated printer?  I have never been able to make the color calibration stuff work on my computer.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: near Nashville, TN
Posted by TarnShip on Tuesday, October 1, 2013 9:52 AM

no, these are physical paint chips,,,,,,,placed up against physical paint chip sheets/books

all you need to "print" a color reference at Lowe's/Home Depot is the CIE data that is in volume II of the FS 595 standards (or anyone's CIE data),,,,,,,,,,that is the data that was used all along, back to 1959 or so, in Volume II. Volume II never had any chips in it, only the Volume I booklets, individual chips, and the ink-printed fan decks had actual color chips/printings

At Lowe's,,,,,you take in anything,,,,,,a paint chip card, your chip pages (yikes! watch out for drips),,,,,or your niece's purple stuffed toy,,,,,,and the machine takes a reading,,,,,,,dispensing pigments to match (and generating color data),,,,,,you can ask them for the data and we can exchange that (just like FS does) and get the exact same color even thousands of miles apart, or from years ago in the past

the CIE works just like the Munsell system (Munsell is easier to "read", though)

Rex

almost gone

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  • From: back country of SO-CAL, at the birth place of Naval Aviation
Posted by DUSTER on Wednesday, October 9, 2013 8:46 PM

Wow! pick up the new yard set, some plumbing supplies, a board or two and -Oh by-the-way, a pint of my favorite  yellow wing color ( though haze gray might be a look    ....or not) .

Life just keeps  gettin'' better all the time 

Steve

Building the perfect model---just not quite yet  Confused

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