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  • Member since
    August, 2018
Washes help
Posted by Cboullion on Friday, August 03, 2018 11:47 PM

Hello everyone. I am new here and I have a few questions about washes such as pen washes. So I am trying to detail up my tank models and my ship models. I have been useing the pen wash to highlight the panel lines. With my older models it has not been a problem but lately it has been. 

I used to have an acrylic base with acrylic wash and it used to went smoothly until I changed to Taymia paint. All of the a sudden the the base coat is been striped when I try to clean up the excess wash. I have tryed and enemal wash as well using testors paints and tinners but that has just been taking the paint right off the model and I had to start all over again on that one part. 

I have a gloss coat over the model and a matt varnish coat on the model as well but for the life of me I can't figure out why the base coat is coming off. I am thinking about going to oil paints for my washes now. Any advice will be helpful. 


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    October, 2010
Posted by hypertex on Tuesday, August 07, 2018 9:24 AM

What brand of washes are you using over the Tamiya paint?

How are you cleaning up the excess? Are you rubbing it off with a paper towell or q-tip? You could be simply rubbing through the paint. Try cleaning up the excess enamel wash with a brush that is slightly damp with thinners.This won't work with acrylic washes, you have clean them up before they dry, which is really fast.

Also, try applying the washes on top of the gloss coat, then apply the matt coat when the wash is dry.

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, August 07, 2018 9:34 AM

I make my own pin washes by thinning black or dark paints with thinner- very thin!

If I am careful about applying it only to the line, I do not have to do much cleanup.  That is secret to me, getting the pin wash only in the panel lines.  I have a special tool I use- a sewing needle jammed into dowel (handle), and the point ground off so it leaves a very small fork.  Doesn't hold much wash, so have to apply it at several places along panel line.  Tedious, but does reduce a lot the amount of cleanup.


Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Tuesday, August 07, 2018 10:04 AM

Oil washes with have the same result as enamel and the thinner is basically the same. You certainly should not use an Acrylic wash on Acrylic paint. Are you sure your letting the Tamiya dry properly.

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Tuesday, August 07, 2018 4:09 PM

My thinking is the paint hasn’t been cured / dried completely.

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  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Tuesday, August 07, 2018 8:51 PM

What thinner?  For washes I use artist oils highly thinned with turpenoid.  



  • Member since
    August, 2018
Posted by Cboullion on Monday, August 20, 2018 1:47 PM

I was trying to use a wash with tester enamel paint and thinner. What I am thinking is that the tester thinner or paint is too hot for tamyia paint. So I just tried to use an oil wash over a gloss coat and it worked out mucher better than the tester stuff. 


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    August, 2018
Posted by Cboullion on Monday, August 20, 2018 1:49 PM

I was using testers paint and thinner and I just switched to the oil paint method and it worked out like a charm


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