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Paint tips and schemes for German panzer and panther

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Paint tips and schemes for German panzer and panther
Posted by Models32466 on Saturday, December 15, 2018 10:10 AM

So building All Tamiya 1/35 scale tanks— In my German Mode.

!Jagdpanther Later Version

Panzer III Ausf L

Panther V Ausf A

Seem to have same color scheme— but want to be sure before I order paint.

Tamiya- Dark Yellow is the base. Red Brown is the camouflage lines but there’s a green on the Jagd— Does nt say which one. 

Is German Gray or Red/Brown this camouflage lines?

 

The Ausf L has a German Gray—still trying to figure out where that comes in.

Any tips or color variation would be nice —plan on order Tamiya paint for all.

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, December 15, 2018 10:33 AM

Quick batch of basic guidelines for painting panzers

Sept 1939 to June 1940: Dark Gray base coat with a dark brown disruptive pattern.

June 1940 to Feb 1943: Dark Gray overall. Some locally applied disruptive colors, plus tropical colors used in North Africa and occasionally in Russia

Feb 1943 to Sept 1944: Dark Yellow base with Olive Green and Red Brown disruptive patterns applied at unit level.

Sept 1944 to Early 1945: Red Brown primer base with Olive Green and Dark Yellow applied over at factory

Early 1945 to end of war: Olive Green base with Dark Yellow and  Red Brown applied at factory.

Mind you these are guides for new production vehicles painted at the factory

 

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, December 15, 2018 11:57 AM

Stik has it pretty much covered. But just to add that the paint applied in the field could vary depending on how it was thinned. The paint was supplied as a paste and could be thinedd with just about anthing. Also, it was not always the case that both the green and red brown were aplied, you could have just one of them. This could be down to the supply chain, local enviroment or unit orders.

The Pz III Ausf L ended production in late 1942. So in 1943 you could have a grey tank with camo applied over it.

And don't forget white wash in winter.

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, December 15, 2018 12:26 PM

Yes, I didn’t want to get into the variables in that post. 1942 production vehicles in gray that survived into spring/summer 1943 would have seen partial or total reprints into the new 1943 colors. There are photos showing dark gray base with dark yellow and either olive green or red brown colors sprayed applied during the rest of the year. It all depended upon the unit priority and supply situation. Elite units like the Tiger Battalions, Grossdeutschland and SS Panzer units had priority. Other panzer divisions were not so high on the food chain.

In southern Russia in summer 1942, during the Don Campaign approaching Stalingrad, some vehicles were seen with mud camouflage applied over the gray base paint to better blend with the local open terrain.

 

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Posted by Models32466 on Saturday, December 15, 2018 1:04 PM

Can i go for a straight Panzer Grey with a little white tint

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Posted by Models32466 on Saturday, December 15, 2018 1:28 PM

What brand to use for a nice gloss finish i can use in my airbrush

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, December 15, 2018 1:35 PM

Models32466

Can i go for a straight Panzer Grey with a little white tint

 

Only the Panzer III L was painted in the Dark Gray, the other two would have been in the 1943 to 1945 camo schemes.

 

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, December 15, 2018 1:42 PM

Models32466

Can i go for a straight Panzer Grey with a little white tint

 

Sorry, but why would you want to.

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Posted by modelmaker66 on Saturday, December 15, 2018 1:44 PM

Models32466

Can i go for a straight Panzer Grey with a little white tint

 

It's your kit and you can use whatever artistic licence you want.

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Posted by Models32466 on Saturday, December 15, 2018 7:05 PM

Bish

 

 
Models32466

Can i go for a straight Panzer Grey with a little white tint

 

 

 

Sorry, but why would you want to.

 

Just watched video by Genesis model uk. By Bobby Waldron and he did the Panzer III Ausf L in German Grey. Looked easy to follow.  I’ll just stick to 1943 version dark yellow, red brown and some weathering 

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Posted by German Armour on Saturday, December 15, 2018 7:59 PM
Hi, my advice to you would be to find a paint sceme you like then go for it! You could use flat paint then coat it with gloss. After 1943 most german armor was painted 3 tone camo.

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Posted by Models32466 on Saturday, December 15, 2018 8:21 PM

German Armour
Hi, my advice to you would be to find a paint sceme you like then go for it! You could use flat paint then coat it with gloss. After 1943 most german armor was painted 3 tone camo.
 

what do you mean by 3 tone Camo.   Olive,brown, yellow?

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Posted by German Armour on Sunday, December 16, 2018 10:36 AM
Yes, here are some links. http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/3/t/175682.aspx http://www.theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=211584 http://www.missing-lynx.com/panzer_facts.htm https://panzerworld.com/german-armor-camouflage http://cdn-frm-eu.wargaming.net/wot/eu/uploads/monthly_02_2012/post-209402-032202600%201329995971.pdf http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/2/t/138929.aspx

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