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Brush Painting Enamel vs Acrylic - Your Thoughts?

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Brush Painting Enamel vs Acrylic - Your Thoughts?
Posted by Ajidica on Thursday, July 29, 2021 9:47 PM

I'm pretty new to the model making stuff, and I've mainly been using acrylics for hand brushing as I had a number of those bottles left over from when I did Warhammer models. I've subsequently picked up a number of Tamiya bottles (and a handful of others) to supplement by old Reaper paints.

However, lately I've been using a lot of enamels to "prime" parts. I've found it gives me a lot better control over what gets primed and is easier to paint pre-assembly. (And the little testor bottles are way cheaper than the spray cans.) I've been finding the "primer" emanel coats are going on very nicely. Without much work I get a nice solid coat on the parts with little to no brush marks. I've read Tamiya is not very nice for brush painting (something I discover *after* buying a number of bottles) but it feels the Testors enamels go on even nicer than my old Reaper bottles, or even some of the Vallejo or PolyScale. The testors goes right on without any need to mess around with adjusting consistency like the acrylics. 

 

What are your experiences with enamel vs acrylic for brush painting? Not planning on getting an airbrush any time soon (small apartment) so I'm really trying to improve my brush painting.

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Posted by oldermodelguy on Friday, July 30, 2021 5:12 AM

Tamiya brushes fine, just thin it a little with retarder ( Tamiyas recommended method). I don't use their retarder as I use Liquitex in acrylics anyway,no need to buy yet another product and it works fine.

Enamel vs acrylic is personal choice. I can live with either one. Most all paints brush better with one sort or another of thinner.

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Posted by gregbale on Friday, July 30, 2021 6:45 AM

I've used Tamiya acrylics for 99 percent of my painting for decades...but for priming and detail-painting, I still mostly use Testors 'square bottle' enamels. (If I could buy their 1163 'Military Gray' by the quart, it would be much handier for my priming. Big Smile)

As the OP pointed out, they're convenient and easy to use, with great coverage and little worry about brush-strokes. And for those with concerns about spraying volatile (and smelly) thinners into their immediate environment -- my original reason for switching to acrylics, while living in an apartment -- rinsing out a brush in a little jar of thinner/cleaner presents no real problem.

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Posted by rocketman2000 on Friday, July 30, 2021 7:27 AM

One thing I like about enamels is that it both brushes and sprays very well.  The only drawback to me was the slow drying time with gloss enamels.  I solved that problem with a homebuilt drying box.

 

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Friday, July 30, 2021 9:05 AM

Hi Ajidica:

          I have always, 72 years now, thinned Testors by a small degree, Say 25-75 in favor of paint of course. It has worked as well for me as the now Gone PACTRA-No Brushmarks-Gauranteed!! I never have liked Acrylics because of the Lousy Brushability UNLESS you add something to them!

      

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, July 30, 2021 11:18 AM

I started out buidling models and painting them with hand brushed enamels long ago. Acrylics did not come along until years later, so that was a learning curve there. But in the long run, for hand brushing, in the majority of cases in my experience, enamels are better performing, with the exception of drying time as stated above. And yes, those little Testors square bottle are still pretty economical. Even if they do cost quite a bit more than the old ones that had $.29 on the lid from back in the day. 

 

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Posted by gregbale on Friday, July 30, 2021 12:14 PM

stikpusher

And yes, those little Testors square bottle are still pretty economical. Even if they do cost quite a bit more than the old ones that had $.29 on the lid from back in the day.

Stik, I don't know what your vintage is...but I've still got a bottle of (still viable) gloss green that says $.15 on the lid.  Big Smile

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, July 30, 2021 1:17 PM

gregbale
Stik, I don't know what your vintage is...but I've still got a bottle of (still viable) gloss green that says $.15 on the lid. 

 

LOL! Well, more than likely, that was when mom and dad were still paying for such things for me and I had no concept of cost or money...

 

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Posted by oldermodelguy on Friday, July 30, 2021 2:42 PM

Back in 1958, 1959 and 60 Testors enamels is pretty much what we had and they always have worked fine and still do.Pactra was like a shot of Geritol though, fantastic enamels, a few different color options from Testors etc.  I had a 108 customer paper route so I always had money enough to feed my model and bicycle needs etc. I remember Testors bottles at $.15 but I'm thinking I recall it being less than that, like $.12,maybe even $.10 at a local hardware store at the time. It's kind of a long time ago so I could be wrong lol !

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Posted by EdGrune on Friday, July 30, 2021 5:11 PM

You mean like these?

 The clear lacquer was a dime.  Splurge on the Battleship Gray -- it was all of 19 cents

You wouldn't see those fancy faceted glass bottles today.    IIRC, more than one of these handgrenades got blown up with a firecracker

 

oh well -- pictures be inverted today == fixed it

 

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Posted by oldermodelguy on Friday, July 30, 2021 6:34 PM

EdGrune

You mean like these?

 The clear lacquer was a dime.  Splurge on the Battleship Gray -- it was all of 19 cents

You wouldn't see those fancy faceted glass bottles today.    IIRC, more than one of these handgrenades got blown up with a firecracker

 

oh well -- pictures be inverted today == fixed it

 

 

Wow look at those !

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Posted by wpwar11 on Friday, July 30, 2021 7:01 PM

For brush painting it's mostly Vallejo model color mixed with a little water.  I've had great results with those paints.  I do like those Testors enamels when painting gold and silver.  The rare times I use Tamiya it's always used with their retarder.  

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Posted by GlennH on Saturday, July 31, 2021 8:13 AM

 Testors by Glenn Hanson, on Flickr

A number Army Viet Nam scans from hundreds yet to be done:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/southwestdreams/albums/72157621855914355

Have had the great fortune to be on every side of the howitzers.

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Posted by EdGrune on Saturday, July 31, 2021 8:22 AM

This predates me.   I can't remember Testors Liquid Glue

25 cents.  I do remember using a tube glue, not Testors

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Posted by EdGrune on Saturday, July 31, 2021 8:27 AM

And later, when the paper route paid off you could graduate to one of Ed 'Big Daddy' Roths colors

Gee, Testor's deals with custom car designers pre-dated their [much] later 'Colors by Boyd' Coddington.    Perhaps someone can deal with Dave Kindig/AKZO Nobel for some of their colors.   It won't be Testors

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Posted by oldermodelguy on Saturday, July 31, 2021 8:46 AM

GlennH

 Testors by Glenn Hanson, on Flickr

 

I remember those too and thinking they were really getting out of hand !

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Posted by Space Ranger on Saturday, July 31, 2021 9:52 AM

EdGrune

This predates me.   I can't remember Testors Liquid Glue

25 cents.  I do remember using a tube glue, not Testors

 

That was the first liquid cement I ever used, and it was a major improvement over any brand of tube glue. It was still produced as of a year or two ago, but the label changed a long time back.

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Posted by goldhammer on Saturday, July 31, 2021 10:38 AM

Space Ranger

 

 
EdGrune

This predates me.   I can't remember Testors Liquid Glue

25 cents.  I do remember using a tube glue, not Testors

 

 

 

That was the first liquid cement I ever used, and it was a major improvement over any brand of tube glue. It was still produced as of a year or two ago, but the label changed a long time back.

 

Still see it on the shelf, little taller bottle and red label.  Way more than a quarter though, like everything elseEmbarrassed

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Posted by disastermaster on Saturday, July 31, 2021 2:30 PM

 

                                                                                

That's a ghost from back in the 60's.
After all those years it's a wonder that it still works.

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