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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 29, 2003 8:20 AM
Hey everyone!!!!

Thanks for all your responses. I think what my problem has been is that I'm putting too much paint on the X Wing. I worked on it for 3 hours on Saturday, and tried doing light coats, and it's working much better.

Again, thanks for all your help.
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  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Posted by J-Hulk on Sunday, September 28, 2003 11:21 AM
Cool, Mike!
I wasn't contesting your statement so much as I was questioning my own understanding of the subject.
Let's see what the experts have to say!

I learn something new every day here!

Brian
~Brian
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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Sunday, September 28, 2003 10:55 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by J-Hulk

Hi, Mike!
Again, sorry to go off topic, but it is my understanding that the B-17 Flying Fortress is universally considered to be one of the toughest, most resilient aircraft ever built, while the B-24, although having greater range and load-carrying ability, had nowhere near the ability to take a punch like the B-17.

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love both aircraft, and am by no means bashing the great Liberator, but to call the B-17 "fragile," particularly in comparison with the B-24, does a disservice to that great aircraft, in my opinion.


I am no expert on bombers but my understanding is that the B-24's did the low altitude bombing because they could take a hit and the B-17's did more high altitude bombing. I could be wrong though. My wife's uncle told me that his dad was a B-24 co-pilot and he once met another guy who flew B-17's at a gathering. When the other guy told him he flew B-17's my wife's uncle's dad said, "Oh you flew those gliders." Big Smile [:D]
I don't know if that was just a poke at the high altitude missions they flew or not, but I had assumed he said it because they were not as big and tough as the B-24's. Question [?]

Ai'll ask this in the 'Aircraft' forum as you said and see what we find out. Wink [;)]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Posted by J-Hulk on Sunday, September 28, 2003 5:47 AM
Hi, Mike!
Again, sorry to go off topic, but it is my understanding that the B-17 Flying Fortress is universally considered to be one of the toughest, most resilient aircraft ever built, while the B-24, although having greater range and load-carrying ability, had nowhere near the ability to take a punch like the B-17.

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love both aircraft, and am by no means bashing the great Liberator, but to call the B-17 "fragile," particularly in comparison with the B-24, does a disservice to that great aircraft, in my opinion.

I'm certainly no expert, so maybe we should post this as a new topic over at the AC forum and see what folks have to say?

By the way, irherman, how goes it with the X-Wing?
~Brian
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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Saturday, September 27, 2003 11:58 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by J-Hulk

That's the first time I've ever heard B-17s referred to as fragile...


That was in comparison to the B-24.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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  • From: Tochigi, Japan
Posted by J-Hulk on Saturday, September 27, 2003 3:11 AM
That's the first time I've ever heard B-17s referred to as fragile...

But that's the subject of another topic!
Beautiful Liberator, Swanny!

Irherman, that does sound like a lot of paint. You don't mention what kind of coverage you're getting...do you mean you've blown on 3 bottles of flat white, and it's not white yet? That X-Wing is not a large kit...you should be able to cover the whole thing with probably less than half a bottle.
Maybe you're being a little too thorough? Can you see any detail left on the model?
Just kiddin' ya!
Tell us a bit more about the kind of coverage you're getting, and maybe we can offer more specific advice.
~Brian
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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Friday, September 26, 2003 7:57 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Swanny

That, my friend, is 1/48. She hangs from the ceiling of my model room near the 1/48 Fw-200 Condor - the two of them caste mighty large shadows.


Very nice Swanny. My wife's uncle's dad was a co-pilot in the Liberators. They were tough bombers, unlike the B-17's which were fairly fragile. Wink [;)]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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  • From: Sandusky Ohio, USA
Posted by Swanny on Friday, September 26, 2003 7:51 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MikeV

Swanny,

Is that 1/48 scale or 1/72nd?

Mike

That, my friend, is 1/48. She hangs from the ceiling of my model room near the 1/48 Fw-200 Condor - the two of them caste mighty large shadows.
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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Friday, September 26, 2003 7:05 AM
Swanny,

Is that 1/48 scale or 1/72nd?

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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  • From: Sandusky Ohio, USA
Posted by Swanny on Friday, September 26, 2003 6:15 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MikeV

Hey Swanny,

That B-24 is a beauty my friend! Cool [8D] Big Smile [:D]

Mike

Thanks Mike, I'm kind of fond of her myself.
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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Thursday, September 25, 2003 8:53 PM
Hey Swanny,

That B-24 is a beauty my friend! Cool [8D] Big Smile [:D]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Thursday, September 25, 2003 8:51 PM
I agree with plum, that is a LOT of paint.

I thin Model Master around 2:1 and spray at about 15-20 psi.
What pressure are you spraying at?
One bottle of Model Master flat white should cover that model easily.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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  • From: Sandusky Ohio, USA
Posted by Swanny on Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:41 PM
Prime first! Put down a good coat of enamel or acrylic flat gray as a primer then apply the white - coverage will be much better and you will use less than one bottle. Same applys for using yellow, both these colors can be a real paint in the butt with out a primer. As far as white goes, try using model railroad reffer white - it gives outstanding coverage.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 25, 2003 1:37 PM
That seems like an awful lot of paint. I find it best to do light even coats until you get full coverage. You'll end up with a better finish and use less paint. Of course you'll end up using more white to get coverage than you would other, darker colors.
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Amount of Paint Used During Airbrushing....
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 25, 2003 1:26 PM
Hey everyone!!

I'm still fairly new to modeling, and I have a question regarding airbrushing: I'm currently building a Star Wars X-Wing fighter, and I'm airbrushing it flat white. The problem is I'm already on my third bottle of flat white, and I'm not even half way through the model!!! I'm using Model Master enamels paints.

As well, I'm airbrushing in stages, meaning I'll airbrush the wings, then work on the parts that go on the wings, then airbrush the fuselage, etc.

Is this common??? If not, am I not thinning the paint enough??

How much paint do you commonly go through when airbrushing a model?

Any suggestions is greatly appreciated.
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