Iwata HP-C vs HP-CS (eclipse)

If you're considering Iwata, go with the CS, BS, or Revolution CR. They are the most appropriate airbrushes for model painting in the Iwata line. I use the Eclipse BS myself.

I'm assuming you have probably gone back and read previous posts on this subject and know that there are several others of this genre to consider. Everyone has their favorites.

Remember, Iwata parts are some of the most expensive out there.

welcome

To answer your question quickly,

The only difference between the HP-C and HP-CS is the CS is a side feed cup that switches to either side depending on preference or which hand you are.

The HP-C is agravity feed cup.(Cup is on top)


Good luck

QUOTE: Originally posted by Build22 To answer your question quickly, The only difference between the HP-C and HP-CS is the CS is a side feed cup that switches to either side depending on preference or which hand you are. The HP-C is agravity feed cup.(Cup is on top) Good luck

Actually the HP-C and HP-CS are both gravity feed..The HP-C is more of an artist's brush. The HP-CS is part of the Eclipse series and as such is designed for heavier mediums like model paints. The HP-SB (high performance series) and HP-SBS (Eclipse) have the interchangeable side cup.

Merlin's right. I have an HP-CS and I swear (repeatedly) by it. Best thing I ever did for myself. I have yet to find a down side to this brush.

Can the HP CS handle thinner paints like ink washes etc?

I have read high praise for the badger sotar 20/20 from the modelmaker's standpoint. That is the only other brush I was considering, and it looks to me like it is too specific (extremely fine details, only uses very thin paint) and not that great as an overall brush.

thanks again,

Sebastian

You're right Merlin - thanks for the correction

I have a Sotar as well as the HP-CS. The Iwata can do just about all that the sotar can do, in terms of detail/fine line, but the Sotar doesn't handle model paints well at all. I was never able to use enamels effectively in it. And as I've said many times before, the Iwata works like a dream compared to all other brushes I've owned. And I've got a lot. I stupidly never listened to the people praising Iwata.

thank you for the help.

for another question: what kind of air system do you all use?

I have a 7 gallon airtank with regulator and moisture trap that I refill with an old Sears compressor. Works great for me.

I have both the HP-C and Eclipse CS and I have found that the HP-C doesn't handle model paint well at all except if it's really thinned down. The HP-CS on the other hand can handle enamels, acrylics and laquers with ease. I bought my HP-CS used on Ebay and it still sprayed as if it was brand new!- the finnest lines I've gotten with an airbrush in 20 years. Over-all spraying is effortless and whats more is that clean up of the gravity-feed cup is sinfully simple. I have a Revolution HP-CR and it performs as well as my CS. THe price for the Revolution is around $59.00 on Dixieart.com.

I use a Campbell Hausfeld 2 gallon "quiet" compressor with my HP-CS. I got mine from Wal-Mart for $90. The unit is a little quieter than my neighbor's hobby compressor, and a lot queter than the standard garage air-tool type.
Generally, I find that I only need to run the motor for a few minutes at the start of a session. After the tank is filled, I turn the motor off. I then have enough air for my painting and cleaning session. This lets me really minimize family disruption. I can fill the tank in the early evengin, and then have enough air to last me the duration of my modelling session after the kids are in bed.