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Paint drying too fast
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 1:57 PM
anyone use a retarder with model master paints? I suspect that my paint is drying too fast when I spray. Not every color but enough that it bothers me. Any advice?
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  • From: Maine,USA
Posted by dubix88 on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 2:17 PM
HEY,
I would just like to ask what happens when i "dries too fast"? In my experience, nothing is too fast, since the faster it dries, the faster you can work with the part.But seriously, what happens too make you think it is drying too fast?

Randy
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 2:46 PM
I have heard that paint will flake if it dries before it reaches the model surface.

James Smile [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 5:08 PM
I find that sometimes I get a rougher finish as if it atomizes, dries on the way then sticks (not particularly well) If I can see that the paint is not immediately dry on the surface I seem to get a smoother finish and smoother fades between colors. I don't think that it's my imagination, but I guess it could be.
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Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 8:43 PM
Plum,

What thinner are you using? I have always had good results with the Model Master thinner. Are you using lacquer thinner by any chance?

Mike

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 9, 2003 8:28 AM
I'm using model master thinner. My house is generally pretty dry as well. Might a humidifier help?
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Posted by styrene on Thursday, October 9, 2003 9:53 AM
You might try moving your 'brush closer to your kit, and thinning just a tad more. If the 'brush is too far away, the paint will definitely dry before it gets to the surface. Gip Winecoff

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 9, 2003 10:40 AM
I spray under 4-5 inches (often under 2) and thin at least 50/50. I tend to think it's the house climate. Air conditioner in summer, baseboard heating (no humidifier) in winter.
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  • From: The flat lands of the Southeast
Posted by styrene on Thursday, October 9, 2003 2:27 PM
Karl,
What kind of pressures are you using out of your compressor? I also have an electric heat pump and air conditioner along with baseboard heat and have no problems. And if I'm not mistaken your area of the country is not much drier than ours. Like you, I go about 50/50 or so. How old is your paint, and have you mixed it thoroughly? My initial suggestion would be
1. If possible, lower your spray pressures slightly.
2. Try thinning a batch 60/40, 70/30, and 80/20 and spray at a consistent pressure and distance.
3. Try using a standard mineral spirits thinner (like what's sold at a hardware store). The model master airbrush thinner is "hotter" than regular mineral spirits, and may be flashing off on you at an accelerated rate.
4. Most importantly, let us know how it goes...
Gip Winecoff

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 9, 2003 2:44 PM
Just as a note, I spray between about 8-15 psi, never higher than 20. I have some mineral spirits so I'll try that. The thing to keep in mind is that It's noticably drier indoors than out. This summer was pretty humid here but dry inside with air conditioners blazing. (I hate humidity)
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 9, 2003 2:46 PM
Note 2: This isn't a major problem. The results I get are still very good and only about 20% of the time. I'm just looking to improve. I've heard people on the forum mention retarders and thought I'd give it a try.
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Posted by MikeV on Thursday, October 9, 2003 10:05 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by plum1030

Just as a note, I spray between about 8-15 psi, never higher than 20.


That is a low enough pressure so that the paint is not atomizing as much as it would at higher pressures, so I think that would help eliminate faster drying times.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Wingman_kz on Sunday, October 12, 2003 10:27 PM
Hmmm, you've tried everything else so that leaves only one thing...

It must be the brush!!!

            

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Posted by MikeV on Sunday, October 12, 2003 10:44 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Wingman_kz

Hmmm, you've tried everything else so that leaves only one thing...

It must be the brush!!!


Yes, those Iwata's are not as perfect as they think. LOL Tongue [:P]

Mike

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 13, 2003 4:05 AM
I use a retarder, however, Im using the Model Master Acrylics. Is that what your using?
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