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Micro Sol paintwork damage
Posted by Pete North on Tuesday, October 8, 2019 5:30 PM

Been trying to use setting solutions on decals. Tried Humbrol Decalfix which destroys paintwork so someone recommended Micro Sol which is even worse. Is there any way to repair this damage and are there any solutions that do work?

 

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  • From: Western North Carolina
Posted by Tojo72 on Wednesday, October 9, 2019 9:50 AM
Micro set and Micro Sol do work,I have never had that problem in 20 years of use.Can't say what caused your problem,I do use it sparingly,not flooding it on the model,just a few drops on the decal only,and I blot any excess off quickly.

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  • From: The Deep Woods
Posted by Tickmagnet on Wednesday, October 9, 2019 12:40 PM

From the way it's all spread out it looks like you are using way too much solution. Unless that happened as a result of attempted clean up. Is it directly on paint, if so what kind or did you clear coat first. If you clear coated what did you clear coat with? Not that I can help but this info would assist greatly.

 

 

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  • From: Towson MD
Posted by gregbale on Wednesday, October 9, 2019 3:53 PM

From your photo, it looks like the damage is to your clear-coat, not your paintwork.

Not sure what you used, but acrylic clear-coats in particular can experience that kind of 'blush' or frosting with any decal-softener or setting solution (or anything else with H2O in it), under certain conditions.

Before you strip anything, try brushing a little of your clear-coat over the hazed area. Often that alone will restore the clarity of the area. (Happens all the time with the Future and Solvaset I use, and always disappears when a little more Future is brushed on.)

Good luck!

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Wednesday, October 9, 2019 4:41 PM

I'm wondering same as Tickmagnet; did you use a clear barrier coat?

Like Tojo, I've used Microsol for years with no problem, but always over a barrier clear coat (acrylic and solvent based, both). I have no idea what might happen directly on paint.

If you did use a clear coat, then I'd lean towards Greg Bale's comments.

Hope you get this sorted, late in the build is a discouraging time to have mishaps, isn't it?

-Greg

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Posted by Pete North on Wednesday, October 9, 2019 7:56 PM

I've used a Humbrol gloss coat. Seems ot be the done thing for the application of decals followed by a matt coat. Not had any success with decal solutions. Even applying directly to paint it still damages the finish. I've managed to correct this by dabbing the area with a cotton bud with the green paint and another layer of varnish over area. Not ideal. The one thing I can say for decal solutions is that I'm now becoming adept at restoration work. 

Thanks for your advice. 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, October 10, 2019 12:18 AM

Yeah it kind of looks like you used too much. I have experienced a similar issue when I used too much. As a result of that I apply solution only to the decal film, and not to the surrounding area. And like Tojo said, use it sparingly; you don’t need much for it work.

Lastly, I had seen some people reporting issues with Humbrol clear, paticulary when used to coat canopies and such. They are reporting a frosting effect. Could this be related, not sure. 

 

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  • From: Sunny So. Cal... The OC
Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, October 10, 2019 10:36 AM

Pete North

I've used a Humbrol gloss coat. Seems ot be the done thing for the application of decals followed by a matt coat. Not had any success with decal solutions. Even applying directly to paint it still damages the finish. I've managed to correct this by dabbing the area with a cotton bud with the green paint and another layer of varnish over area. Not ideal. The one thing I can say for decal solutions is that I'm now becoming adept at restoration work. 

Thanks for your advice. 

 

If you get this happening again, shoot a layer of your clear gloss coat over the affected area. I have had a worse look than that with Solvaset and Future. I was told to apply another gloss coat over that, and boom, cleared it right up. The proceed to your final top coat: flat/matt, satin, semi gloss or gloss once you are ready.

 

 

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Posted by Silver on Friday, October 18, 2019 2:06 PM

Micro Sol or any solution will ruin surface applications if you use any future or glo products.Add a few drops of water to any decal settion solution before starting.If using enamel products.Let the enamel sealer dry for about a week Or longer.If the surface is tacky ,do not start.Polish the surface.

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