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Applying decals over a waxed surfaced??

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Applying decals over a waxed surfaced??
Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, November 12, 2020 3:05 PM

I just finished my 1969 Camaro and was planning on polishing the model with "The Treatment" Model Wax. Will decals stick to the waxed surface?

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, November 12, 2020 4:05 PM

I am certain the answer is no. Can you apply the wax over a coat of Future

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Posted by Scale-Master on Thursday, November 12, 2020 5:26 PM

JohnnyK

I just finished my 1969 Camaro and was planning on polishing the model with "The Treatment" Model Wax. Will decals stick to the waxed surface?

 

They will stick, but not as well as an unwaxed finish. 

Applying Future over a waxed finish is asking for more trouble.  It's essentially an acrylic clear paint.

I would carefully and lightly spot polish the areas the decals are going to remove the wax. 

If you did not use acrylic for the paint, you can carefully use a little windex or 409 on a soft cloth to spot degrease too.  A little detergent in water will also strip just the wax. 

Once the decals have fully dried you can use the same Treatment wax to bring up their luster too.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, November 12, 2020 8:10 PM

Okay, here is the deal. I painted my model with Tamiya lacquer. I let it dry for 3 days. I noticed that the nose of the model needed to be repainted. I used plastic wrap to mask off the model since I thought that the plastic wrap would do less damage than masking tape. Guess what. All of the wrinkles in the plastic wrap were transfered onto the Tamiya painted surface. The wrinkles transfered onto the roof, trunk and sides of the model! I am thinking that I could buff out the model's body with wax.    

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, November 13, 2020 12:58 AM

Scale-Master

 

 
JohnnyK

I just finished my 1969 Camaro and was planning on polishing the model with "The Treatment" Model Wax. Will decals stick to the waxed surface?

 

 

 

They will stick, but not as well as an unwaxed finish. 

Applying Future over a waxed finish is asking for more trouble.  It's essentially an acrylic clear paint.

I would carefully and lightly spot polish the areas the decals are going to remove the wax. 

If you did not use acrylic for the paint, you can carefully use a little windex or 409 on a soft cloth to spot degrease too.  A little detergent in water will also strip just the wax. 

Once the decals have fully dried you can use the same Treatment wax to bring up their luster too.

 

decal first, Future second, wax third.

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Friday, November 13, 2020 7:11 AM

Exactly right, GMorrison!  I was going to say that, but you beat me to it!  Thanks.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Saturday, November 14, 2020 5:34 PM

JK, why not polish with Novus then apply the decals and you are done. I have done 3 Blue Angel F18s this way and the paint looks like glass after polishing.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, November 15, 2020 8:53 AM

I learned that decals and wax do not mix when I used Rub and  Buff for a NMF finish.  Looked nice but decals would not stick to it.  In fact, almost nothing sticks to wax including paint.  I am always careful never to get wax on kit until it is completely finished.

Same thing with Silicone.

 

 

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Posted by JohnnyK on Sunday, November 15, 2020 10:32 AM

I'll remove the wax with Dawn, then polish with Novus. Thanks for the input.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Sunday, November 15, 2020 11:40 AM

Don 

I recall reading an article where the builder used thinned Rub n Buff and airbrushed it. I agree with you that decals and wax don't mix. I can't remember where I read the article and how he attached the decals and wonder if they are still on.

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