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Two part roundels-how do you handle these?

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  • Member since
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  • From: NW Washington
Two part roundels-how do you handle these?
Posted by dirkpitt77 on Sunday, December 23, 2012 10:59 AM

More and more, I'm seeing kits with roundel markings in which the white background and outer ring are printed, and then the dot for the center is printed separately. How do you guys handle these? Do you put down the larger decal, let it cure, clearcoat, and THEN install the center dot? Or can it all be done at once, where you'd put the center dot right on top of the freshly laid background?

   And what is the reason for printing these in two parts anyway? I'm sure I've seen more complex color schemes printed on a decal. Or is it something to do with keeping the decal in register?

Chris

    "Some say the alien didn't die in the crash.  It survived and drank whiskey and played poker with the locals 'til the Texas Rangers caught wind of it and shot it dead."

  • Member since
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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, December 23, 2012 11:04 AM

Personally  I generally do those all at once, putting the center or whatever second part a decal needs before overcoating/sealing.

As far as why they do it that way, silkscreening is not the cheapest process in the world- the more colors you have in a decal set the more expensive the silkscreening.  Consider that the actual decal film is also applied via silkscreen, so even a two-color decal is a three screen process.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

  • Member since
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  • From: NW Washington
Posted by dirkpitt77 on Sunday, December 23, 2012 11:16 AM

Interesting. Thanks for the quick reply, Don.

--Chris

    "Some say the alien didn't die in the crash.  It survived and drank whiskey and played poker with the locals 'til the Texas Rangers caught wind of it and shot it dead."

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  • From: AandF in the Badger State
Posted by checkmateking02 on Sunday, December 23, 2012 8:05 PM

I wait a day before putting on the red dot.  Hopefully, that gives the main part of the roundel time to dry--and not respond to further decal setting solutions.  I've never found it necessary to clear coat over the top of another decal.  They seem slick enough as is.  I've never tried putting two decals on top of each other immediately.

Good luck with whatever way you try.

 

 

 

 

  • Member since
    April 2006
  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Sunday, December 23, 2012 11:18 PM

I never realized it was a cost saving measure on the manufacturer - actually don't see how placing a red dot centrally on a roundel would cost more than having it isolated elsewhere on the decal sheet.

I have seen roundels that were out of register, I guess this way it's up to the builder to get it right.  Also sometimes you will find the location of the roundel is over some raised detail, so cutting out some of the white portion in this area and painting the required area white afterwards, followed by applying the red dot does make things easier.

regards,

Jack

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  • From: Western North Carolina
Posted by Tojo72 on Tuesday, December 25, 2012 9:15 PM

I also would apply them both one right after another with no real wait time.Always worked for me.

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