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PE Bender Suggestions
Posted by BigSmitty on Thursday, October 9, 2008 10:53 AM

Hi all,

I decided that if I ever start adding in PE items to kits (starting back slooooowly here) that I'll probably end up needing a photoetch bender.  What are the suggestions for a good quality bender.  I'm assuming they have varying sizes, and I plan on building 1/35 armor, 1/48 armor, 1/72 armor, 1/48 aircraft (nothing like B-17 size, probably SBD size at largest) and 1/72 aircraft.

Thanks for the input in advance.

Matt - IPMS #46275

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Posted by usmc1371 on Thursday, October 9, 2008 11:13 AM

I've been using Tamiya's Bending Pliers:

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=74067

I like them because I can do long folds on them and they're spring action.  They also allow a fold past 90 degrees.  They may seem a little expensive for bending pliers but Tamiya's tools are top notch.  You can find them much cheaper than at TamiyaUsa.com

-Jesse

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Posted by Summit on Thursday, October 9, 2008 1:08 PM

I have had Terrific Results with " The Bug" available from the Small Shop

 http://thesmallshop.com/index.php

1st  PE work This was my first attempt at using Photo Etch parts

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by squeakie on Friday, October 10, 2008 11:33 AM
 Summit wrote:

I have had Terrific Results with " The Bug" available from the Small Shop

 http://thesmallshop.com/index.php

1st  PE work This was my first attempt at using Photo Etch parts

I've been loking at a couple PE bending tools myself, and this was one of them (plus they larger one they sell). Just how long of a piece will it bend? I'd like something that I can do the fenders, etc. on armor. I've looked at the Etchmate, but have only seen photos of the "bug".

gary

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Posted by Summit on Friday, October 10, 2008 11:50 AM
Gary, the largest flat  is 2" or 50mm the the smallest is 1/16" or 1.5mm . I really liked this one as it is machined out of aircraft aluminum instead of a composit. For what I do it is perfect !
Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by usmc1371 on Friday, October 10, 2008 11:59 AM

I used to use The Small Shops 4" Hold and Fold.  It's a great tool and well made.  The only thing I didn't like about, was constantly screwing and unscrewing the knob to set and release the PE.  That's why I like the pliers.  I just squeeze, bend, and release and I'm done.  Just my two cents.

Jesse

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Posted by squeakie on Friday, October 10, 2008 6:35 PM

I was over at the LHS awhile ago, and the only thing the carry is the Etchmate. I like it except for really small stuff. Right now it looks like I'm going to end up with two sets of tools unless I can find one that will do 4" plus handle the really little stuff easilly. I did ask about the Tamayia pliers, and they were actually unaware of their extistance, but it seems like I saw them once in a MicroMark sales add inside FSM.

gary

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Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Friday, October 10, 2008 8:08 PM

The Small Shop...there is no substitute!

 

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Posted by squeakie on Saturday, October 11, 2008 2:42 PM
 HawkeyeHobbies wrote:

The Small Shop...there is no substitute!

 

what shops sell them, as that's exactly what I need

gary

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Posted by usmc1371 on Sunday, October 12, 2008 7:10 AM

http://www.thesmallshop.com/index.php

www.greatmodels.com sometimes has them in stock

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Posted by BigSmitty on Sunday, October 12, 2008 5:00 PM

Thanks all.

I went with the 5.5" model, seemed to be the best fit.  I do have a couple of kits with longer pieces that The Bug wouldn't be the best fit for.

 

Matt - IPMS #46275

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Posted by DrewH on Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:56 PM
Matt, I wrote an articl on bending etch using the Bug, but everything applies to your bender. You can check it out here
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Posted by BigSmitty on Sunday, October 12, 2008 9:34 PM

Drew,

I read your "how to" article.  Thanks so much for posting the link.  I've never used one before; I used to use a pair of pliers or tweezers for bending PE and it was a pain.  I figured if I'm getting in this for the long haul, a quality bender will help.  Your write up is really informative and the pics are great in explaining the techniques you used.

Matt

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Posted by caSSius on Monday, October 13, 2008 12:14 AM

This is certainly an opportunly timed thread for me!  Last night I started to look for info online for these units...my one-and-only LHS doesn't stock any brands, so I guess I'm gonna have to order one in.

The one I found the most info on was the Etchmate 3C...I'm not sure how it compares to the others listed here...but thought I'd throw that "name in the hat".

It's made of composite instead of the aluminum (sounds less durable...but who knows with the polymers they're coming up with these days!)...I found this demo done by Brett Green if you wanna see one in action:

youtube.com/watch?v=26S7jnC9nsE

It'd be great to get more input on this...

Cheers

Brad

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 6:34 PM
Glad i just saw this thread. I been thinking about getting a folding tool instead of just useing my smooth pliers and tonight i noticed the 3c on a couple of sites i use here in the UK. So far its the only one i have seen for sale in the UK and i think thats the one i am going to go with. I can imagine useing all 3 tighting screws can get a bit tedious but after seeing that video i don't think it would be that bad as you only need to do all 3 for larger parts. Thats for posting that clip caSSius, think you just helped me make my mind up.

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Posted by caSSius on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 7:27 PM

I'm glad it was of use to you Bish...it sounds like we're both at the same point; ready to buy and just making up our minds which one. I'm leaning towards the 3C myself, I just wish I could examine one firsthand before I order one...

Cheers

Brad

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 1:26 PM

Would be nice, but i think at the end of the day, if you are going to be serious about PE, you need something to help get those bends right. All these tools seem to work basically the same way from what i can tell, i personally don't see whats its made of makeing any difference. I did read that the 3c is durable because its made of composites, but how durable does it need to be to bend PE. I have seen that there are smaller, and therefore cheaper ones. But as i do alot of 1/35 armour i think a bigger one would suit me better. As for the cost, ye, at £36 it is a bit to splash out, but then the 251 halftrack i am building cost more than that by the time i add in PE and stuff.

The 3c seems to suit my needs and i have found a couple of places here that sell it, so that puts it at the top of my next shopping list.

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Posted by DrewH on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 10:00 PM

I had the same debate. Which one to get? Here's how I decided:

What am I going to use it for? - Size matters here.
 
Versatility - what kinds of bends will I be doing and how will it work for me? Complex tiny bends vs long bends? What will the tool do?

What materials will I use? - I had the notion of bending brass sheet (Not sure how the composite would hold up here)

I urge you guys to read my article (above) and see some of the techniques involved. It may make the decision for you that much easier Smile [:)]

 

 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, October 16, 2008 2:52 AM
DrewH Looking at the bug in your articule, that also looks like it would useful for the sort of PE i use, especially as it has the long side. But being in the UK, i am also restricted by whats avalible over here and at the moment, that seems to be limited to the 3c as i ahven't been able to find any of the others.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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