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WIP: Spray booth and cart in 48hrs, and less than $235

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WIP: Spray booth and cart in 48hrs, and less than $235
Posted by cardshark_14 on Monday, December 1, 2008 2:56 AM

Hokay, here we go.  By popular demand, a WIP of a safe, large, and portable, spray booth & drying oven built in less than 48 hours of work start to finish and for less than $235.
(Artograph - $235+S/H, Badger - $305 + S/H Paasche - $285+S/H) 

EDIT: I've decided to also build a rolling cart for the spray booth.  I will post the cost of materials for that as well, but I won't be counting it towards my cost limit, as it is not comparable to something commercially available.

EDIT: I've decided to add a hinged plexiglass lid for the spray booth as well.  I've gotten all my supplies now, so my projected costs have been corrected to actual cost, to the nearest quarter.

Materials and Specialty Tools: 
Malco sheet metal shears drill attachment $41.00
4' x 8' sheet of 28 gauge sheet metal $35.00
4-1/4" hole saw $25.00
power supply $15.00
3' x 3' x 1/8" piece of plexiglass $16.00
fluorescent lights $17.00
grate $15.00
5 x 110 CFM electric brushless computer fans $12.00
furnace filter $8.50
acrylic/plexiglass scoring knife $8.00
8' aluminum flex duct $5.00
12-1/2" square to 8" round reducer $4.50
2 medium non-mortise hinges $4.00
3 small hinges $4.00
8" to 6" reducer $3.00
weather stripping tape $3.00
lazy susan $3.00
3/16" drill bit for acrylic $2.75
assorted machine screws $2.50
lots of rivets $2.00
6" to 4" reducer $2.00
assorted nuts $1.50
2' x 1" square aluminum tubing $1.50 Didn't use
rubber grommets $0.25
assorted leftover 2x4s and 4x4s for bending, clamping, and hammering (scrap wood) FREE
TOTAL: $230.00

Tools:
5 assorted c-clamps
tape measure
speed square
pop riveter
drill
basic drill bit set
sharpie permanent marker
large T-square
punch
hammer
hacksaw
2 steel 12" rulers

Plan:
Cut out flattened shape of spray booth.  Use hole saw to cut out fan holes.  Use clamps, rulers, and large T-square to fold into shape.  Use rivets to attach tabs and sides and to connect reducers.  Use Machine Screws to attach fans and reducer.  Cut 1" pieces of square tubing for filter to rest on.  Set grate on filter.  Set lazy susan on grate.  Wire light and fans to power supply.

I will offload and add step by step pictures, as well as way more information once this thing is complete. If you have any questions, please ask.

Cheers,
Alex

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Posted by jtrace214 on Monday, December 1, 2008 7:45 AM

Thats kinda like the one I built,but I have a race car fab shop to work with. I made a framework of 1/2" square tubing with 3/4" in the front, tig welded together the covered it it sheetmetal pop riveted to the frame. Hung a fan off the back,furnace filter and flex duct to outside. I made it big enough I could do 1/10 scal R/C bodies I used to be into them. Works great and had everything but the fan and duct on hand...(little over kill I know lol)

John

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Posted by cardshark_14 on Tuesday, December 2, 2008 2:28 AM

28 Hours Left

So far, I've spent 12 hours on Sunday, designing, laying out, cutting out, and building the actual booth. All sheet metal work is now done.  

Today I put in another 8 hours this evening, acquiring the rest of my materials, assembling the fluorescent light, and laying out all the rest of my mounting holes, to be drilled once I have access to my friend's garage again.  I live in an apartment complex, so most of the work has to be done at a friend's house.  

Spray Booth 'To Do' List: 

  • Drill & mount fans to bolt-on assembly
  • Drill & mount reducers to bolt-on assembly
  • Mount flex duct to bolt-on assembly
  • Drill & mount fluorescent light strip
  • Drill fan power wire hole in booth
  • Drill light power wire hole in booth
  • Cut, drill, and mount spacers for filter
  • Insert grommets and wire fans and light into power supply

    While this finishes the spray booth project itself, I have a rolling spray booth cart to build, as well as setting everything up.  I estimate that between the spray booth itself, and its cart, I will finish the whole enchilada with ~1 hour to spare.Mischief </li>[:-,]Evil [}:)]Blindfold [X-)]

    Once the spray booth itself is done, I'll post a materials/specialty tools list and costs.

    If you've seen other projects I've tackled, like our desks, you'll know that it is important to both me and SWMBO that we both find our workspaces useful and aesthetically pleasing.  So, for the cart's main structure, I went to Office Depot and bought a chrome wire hanging file folder cart. 

    I plan to mount a nice wood tabletop surface to the top of the cart.  It will be made from a piece of plywood left over from the desks, and stained and tung oiled to match them. The spray booth will then mount on top of that, as well as my air regulator and my airbrush holders. My compressor and airbrush tools and parts will be below the spray booth on the cart.

    Spray Booth Cart 'To Do' List:

  • Cut and rout an edge on plywood table top
  • Remove center section of table top so reducers will pass through
  • Stain and tung oil table top
  • Use hole saw to create fan wire hole in table top surface
  • Use hole saw to create holes for table top surface to mount to cart
  • Bolt spacers and spray booth to table top surface
  • Mount power strip, power supply, air regulator and airbrush holders to tabletop
  • Slide tabletop and spray booth assembly over cart poles
  • Set up compressor and airbrush lines
  • Cut window vent board to length
  • Stain and tung oil window board
  • Install dryer vent in window board
  • Use the darn thing!!! Big Smile </li>[:D]Propeller [8-]Party [party]

    Cheers,
    Alex

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    Posted by cardshark_14 on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 7:38 PM

    Ha! Progress!  A little at least...Elapsed time: 24 hours

    I spent 5 hours today on the project.  After some deliberation, I decided to add a plexiglass hinged lid to my design.  1 hour was spent wandering around hardware stores looking for acrylic and possible hinges.  Another hour was spent banging out a quick representation of the finished project in Solid Works, sans plexiglass lid. The other 3 hours were used to mark all my hole centers and cuts, so that when I have access to my friend's garage again (hopefully this Friday night) I can finish this thing. As an appetizer, here are some screenshots from Solid Works:

    Isometric view:


    Front view:


    Side view:


    Fan and vent detail:


    Cheers,
    Alex

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    Posted by jtrace214 on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 7:53 PM

    It looks good so far I was wondering what was going on I like the down draft idea mine just goes out the back yours should work better. I didn't think of that when I built mine like 4 years ago. I'm not familar with solid works ( I'm new to computers) looks  like a cool program

     

     

    John

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    Posted by cardshark_14 on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:21 PM

    Hi John, 

    Being in an apartment complex is really cramping my style...I miss being out on in the country in the midwest...I could work all night, and no one would care, or even know...now I have to pack everything up and go somewhere else just to work...I've been tempted to go out in the desert and work, but Roger, or one of his Border Patrol buddies might come after me. Wink [;)]

    Solid Works is a great program with a bit of a learning curve.  I learned it in college, and regularly use it at work.  If you do a lot of fabrication work that is routine, rather than custom, you might look into it.

    Cheers,
    Alex

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    Posted by sfcmac on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 11:08 PM
     It almost looks like a dust catcher that I have seen in some wood shops. Very cool idea. Your able to pull it off at cost? That will be pretty cool. Much more advanced than my window fan. Tongue [:P]
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    Posted by cardshark_14 on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 11:26 PM

    Hey Aaron, 

    Yep, unless something unforseeable happens, I've gotten everything that I need to, so I'm actually a bit under budget!  Plus, my spray booth has some nice extras that aren't included with even an artograph booth, like a plexiglass lid, all the ductwork, and even new tools! Party [party]  The best thing is that while its large enough to hold 1/72 heavies and flying boats, like a Ju 390 or an Me 323 or a Bv 222, it also will collapse quite nicely for when we move back to the midwest.  I can't wait to get this thing finished and move on to some modeling...my V-1 is calling my name, and I've got a bunch to finish for Roy's NME GB.

    Cheers,
    Alex

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    Posted by cardshark_14 on Thursday, December 11, 2008 12:21 AM

    Parts list and price breakdown for spray booth cart:

    Materials and Specialty Tools:
    Rolling file cart $25.00 (Already had)
    Airbrush/regulator holder $17.00 (Already had)
    Power strip $1.50
    4 x 7/8" ID washer $1.50
    4 x 5/16" x 1 1/2" bolts $0.50
    4 x 5/16" nuts $0.25
    leftover piece of plywood FREE
    1 1/8" Hole Saw $6.00 (Already had)
    TOTAL: $51.75 (actually spent $3.75)
    Big Smile [:D]

    Tools:
    tape measure
    speed square
    drill
    1/2" wrench
    1/2" socket
    ratchet
    basic drill bit set
    pencil
    large T-square
    punch
    hacksaw
    jig saw

    Cheers,
    Alex

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    Posted by jtrace214 on Thursday, December 11, 2008 12:38 AM

    Alex,thanks for the info on Solid Works I think I could use it alot of what I do is repetative bends and stuff on rub rails (side bumbers) and front and rear bumbers, and most body parts are identical to manufacturer. I know what you mean about neighbors they built a new house near my garage and the new couple have a baby so they ask me to nock off at 9:00 which I understand but......None of my others ever complained I even do side work for the welding and car repairs.

     

    John

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    Posted by cardshark_14 on Thursday, December 11, 2008 12:52 AM
    John, no problem. If you can get a hold of Modelnerd, he knows how to get a copy decently cheap.  Otherwise, its ridiculously expensive.

    Cheers,
    Alex
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    Posted by cardshark_14 on Sunday, December 14, 2008 5:01 PM
    I've just gotten the all clear to go finish this thing at my friend's house. Hopefully it'll be done later tonight. Stay tuned!

    Cheers,
    Alex
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    Posted by cardshark_14 on Monday, December 15, 2008 2:16 PM
    I put in another 6 1/2 hours on Sunday, and the whole thing's almost done, I need to caulk the joints and attach the plexiglass lid and hinges, but that can be done at any time.  I can start using it really soon!  Hooray!Propeller [8-]

    Total Elapsed Time: 30 1/2 hours 

    I apologize in advance for dropping into technical writing/ME report mode.Dead [xx(]

    From the start...

    I started with a piece of 28 gauge sheet metal, and marked out the spray booth unfolded on it using a Sharpie.  

    Next, the flattened shape was cut out using this attachment:

    The shank of the attachment goes into any drill, and the internal gearbox converts rotary motion into a vertical snipping motion.  I was a bit leery of using something like this as it seemed a bit hokey, but it goes through 28 gauge like a hot knife through butter.

    A 3/8" drill bit was used to open up a hole to insert the shears to cut out the square in the bottom of the spray booth where the fan and reducer assembly would eventually go.  

    Lacking a brake, I had to get creative.  I wanted stress bends on the back, as it was a large, flimsy expanse of metal with no real rigidity.  My friend's garage has a cement floor with expansion joints about 1/4" wide.  I laid the sheet metal over the expansion joint, and held a 4x4 with just the corner touching and smacked it with a hammer to imprint a stress bend in the metal.  I rotated the sheet metal 180 degrees and repeated the work.  This formed the familiar X shape ribs found on large ductwork, similar to what is shown below.

    Using clamps and steel rulers to spread the force evenly, the tabs and sides of the spray booth were folded.  Sharp 90 degree folds were made by holding a scrap piece of 4x4 on the inside of the fold, and hitting the outside of the fold with a hammer.  After everything was folded, clamps were used to hold parts together, while 1/8" holes were drilled.  The tabs were then riveted in place.  

    Next, the fan and reducer assembly was built.  First, a leftover piece of sheet metal 12 3/4" on a side was cut out.  Five 4 1/8" holes were marked out, and drilled out using a hole saw.  The fans were then clamped in place and their mounting holes were drilled out as well.  The fans were then mounted to the metal using machine screws in all holes except those along the outer edge.  The square reducer's mounting flanges were pulled off, and slits were cut so that new mounting tabs that would sit flush could be bent out.  The fan assembly was then clamped to the reducer flanges, and the outer fan mount holes were chased out through the reducer.

    Next, the other reducers were were attached using self-tapping sheet metal screws. the joints were then wrapped in foil tape.  Finally, weatherstripping was applied to the bottom of the reducer flange, the assembly was held in place, holes were drilled in the corners, and machine screws were used to mount the whole thing. The sheet metal work was now complete.

    Next, the tabletop was cut to size, routed, and stained.  Locations for the connecting bolts and the cart posts were then covered in masking tape to prevent splintering, marked out on the bottom, and drilled. A 3/8" drill bit was once again used to provide a starting hole for a jigsaw to cut out the square shapewhere the fan and reducer assembly would eventually go.  A line of weatherstripping was laid out to form a tight seal between the bottom of the spray booth, the rivets, and the table top.  

    Major assembly was now done, and we started on odds and ends.  With the tabletop complete, we clamped the spray booth in place, and chased out holes in the bottom of it for the connecting bolts, which were then bolted down, and the fan power wire. A grommet was inserted into the fan power wire hole.  Holes were also drilled in the top of the spray booth to mount the fluorescent light, and it was then mounted.  A hole was drilled in the side of the spray booth for the light power wire, and the light was then wired up.  The aluminum spacers proved to be disappointing, so we used long machine screws as studs to rest the filter and grate on. The fan wires were attached in parallel, heat shrink-wrappped, sealed, and fed through the power wire hole.  Next, they were wired into a quick disconnect, with the other side of the disconnect feeding into the power supply.  

    The whole assembly was then slid onto the cart poles, and large washers were used as spacers.  Metal straps were screwed into the bottom of the tabletop, and thread through the cart sides to hold the assembly in place.  My airbrush regulator, holder, and quick-disconnect were added to the front of the tabletop, while the compressor and power supply were mounted to the bottom of the cart.  A power strip was mounted to the bottom of the tabletop, and the power supply, compressor, and lights were plugged in.  The filter and grate were placed on their improved supports, and we called it a night!




    Feel free to ask any questions you can think of...I'd love to hear your comments and friendly criticism too!  

    Cheers,
    Alex
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    Posted by namrednef on Monday, December 15, 2008 5:31 PM

     

    Alex! Absolutely AWESOME garage metalworking! Well planned and improvised with great skill!

    I do this crap for a living and you've given me 'field mod' ideas!

    Your cross-brake (for rigidity) idea was inspired. And for all your hammering.....it looks damned well!

    Thumbs Up [tup]

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    Posted by cardshark_14 on Monday, December 15, 2008 5:54 PM
    Thanks for the kind words, Nam! Blush [:I] Cross brake!  Is that what that is called?  
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    Posted by sfcmac on Monday, December 15, 2008 6:15 PM

     Awesome looking Alex! Did Nam ever show you his? He powered his with a WP 2100 HP radial engine though. Sucked the poor Puppy right thru the vent hence the one bent ear. Laugh [(-D] Also seems to send his models into a parallel dimension which ok cuz he works miricles with those old kits! Make a Toast [#toast]

     Seiously are those computer fans? Ran by a computer Powersupply? Cool! Never thought of that. Good idea!

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    Posted by cardshark_14 on Monday, December 15, 2008 6:27 PM

    LOL Aaron!  Thanks for the kind words.  They are computer fans, but they're special...they move a lot of air, 110.31 CFM each, 5 mounted in parallel, after headloss, means they move about 510 CFM total. Mischief [:-,] I got them while they were on sale, now they are $9.95 each.

    http://www.frozencpu.com/products/6488/fan-383/Scythe_Slip_Stream_120mm_x_25mm_Fan_-_1900_RPM_SY1225SL12SH.html?tl=g36c15s60

    They are also sealed, and spark proof.

    HTH!

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    Posted by jtrace214 on Monday, December 15, 2008 9:28 PM

    As someone who does alot of sheetmetal work it came out very good. I like it. Can't even tell you didn't use a brake good bends and improvising another thing that can be done is some c-clamps and 2 peices of angle iron for an improvised brake I do tha for bends over 4' thats the largest my present brake can handle. I have  an attachment like that for my drill don't use it much since I bought an air nibbler and a beverly shear.

     

     

    John

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    Posted by styrene on Monday, December 15, 2008 10:14 PM

    Alex,

    Your booth is probably one of the nicest down draft setups I've seen.  Good design, and obviously well thought-out.  I've never been one to recommend the use of computer fans, but what you have done is commendable.  550cfm seems a bit of an overkill for a downdraft booth; however, airflow won't be a problem for you.  I also like your plenum and reducer ductwork; you should get a lot of good, even airflow without any restrictions on the push side.  Job well done.

    Merry Christmas

    Gip Winecoff

    P.S.  I'm really curious as to its performance once you get it all hooked up and running.  Could you do an update here, or shoot me an email?  Thanks.

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    Posted by Bgrigg on Monday, December 15, 2008 10:26 PM
    Wow, Alex. Just Wow. You did yourself proud with that booth. And you get praise from Gip. I don't know if I've ever seen that before! Bow [bow]

    So long folks!

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    Posted by cardshark_14 on Monday, December 15, 2008 11:30 PM
    Gip, Bgrigg, thanks for the kind words.  I really appreciate them, especially coming from you two. I read a lot of posts by both of you as I was researching my dream spray booth.  Bgrigg, I don't know if you noticed, but after a lot of testing, I went with one cool bulb and one warm bulb, just like you recommended to someone a long time ago.  Gip, reading all your comments about spray booths are like a list of what to do and what not to do.  Really, all I did was just do what you and a lot of other people who know more than I do recommended.  I'm glad to get your seal of approval. Wink [;)]

    Cheers,
    Alex 
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    Posted by cardshark_14 on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 4:14 PM
    Gip, is there a way for me to measure airflow at the exhaust vent, without buying, borrowing, or stealing an anemometer or rigging a pitot probe?  I can do fluids calculations for a theoretical airflow after head loss, but I'd like to know what real world performance I have at the outlet.  If I was back at school, I'd just check out one from the ME stock room...

    Cheers,
    Alex
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    Posted by namrednef on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 4:39 PM

    Alex.........send me all your data......should be able to help.

     

    Also, outside venting info.

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    Posted by Summit on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 8:16 PM
    Alex - I really like your booth. I just cant believe you did such a Fantastic job with out the Modern Sheet~metal brake or shear.  Just goes to show us Primitive methods and determination can get the job done.  I just wish you would of done this project last Spring when I was in the market for a Spray~booth.  Kudos to you and looking forward to seeing your first project painted using it Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]
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    Posted by styrene on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 10:00 PM

     cardshark_14 wrote:
    Gip, is there a way for me to measure airflow at the exhaust vent, without buying, borrowing, or stealing an anemometer or rigging a pitot probe?  I can do fluids calculations for a theoretical airflow after head loss, but I'd like to know what real world performance I have at the outlet.  If I was back at school, I'd just check out one from the ME stock room...

    Cheers,
    Alex

     

    Alex,

    I just saw your post.  I really need to throw this one around the office tomorrow, because sitting here at almost 11 p.m. trying to maintain some minimal level of comprehension is almost an impossibility (I just got back tonight from a 3-hour Messiah rehearsal after playing 5 other Christmas concerts the past few days).  I'll try to address your question in the a.m. tomorrow.  Thanks for your patience.

    Gip

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    Posted by cardshark_14 on Tuesday, December 16, 2008 10:25 PM
    Gip, no problem...Thanks for any help you can send my way. Thumbs Up [tup]

    Cheers,
    Alex
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    Posted by cardshark_14 on Saturday, December 20, 2008 9:04 PM
    Ha!  It turns out that there's a nice bonus to making a spray booth out of metal.  I covered the interior with butcher paper in less than 5 minutes...the best part?  Its held up with little magnets! I need to let the caulk dry, and than I'll be ready to start messing with this thing.  I'll post pics after I play with it a bit.  Wink [;)]  Can you tell I'm excited?

    Cheers,
    Alex
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    Posted by cardshark_14 on Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:40 PM
    It occurs to me that I could get a piece of blue or black or white fabric and use magnets to hang it on the inside of the booth...voila!  Instant photo booth!  Now...to search the forums for info on drying booths...

    Cheers,
    Alex
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    Posted by Bgrigg on Sunday, December 21, 2008 7:44 AM

    Alex,

    Good thinking on the butcher paper, and on the idea of using it as a photo booth. My suggestion would be to have a longer piece of paper and let it curve along the bottom. That way you don't get a line in the background.

    So long folks!

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    Posted by namrednef on Sunday, December 21, 2008 3:08 PM

     

    Inspired idea about the photo booth, Alex!....nice input from BGrigg too!

    My homemade booth is of 26 ga. galvanized steel. I like reflectivity of the lights on the metal....I aim the lights up at the roof and it gets BRIGHT with little glare. To stop the overspray build-up, I keep delivery pizza boxes and paint inside of them.

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