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vac U form?
Posted by mandrake on Thursday, July 10, 2008 7:42 PM

hi there, i am looking for a Vac U Form machine, i have seen the old mattel one in ebay but it seems to be a little bit to old, is there any suggestions you guys can give me? i need it to make 1/48 airplane modifications and or spare parts-

 

 

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Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:26 PM
If you do the Google thing you can find plans to make your own. There are commercial produced units but prepare yourself for sticker shock, some of them are not cheap. Never under estimate those old Mattel vac form machines...my friend has one and it still works like new.

Gerald "Hawkeye" Voigt

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Posted by EdGrune on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:08 AM
 mandrake wrote:

hi there, i am looking for a Vac U Form machine, i have seen the old mattel one in ebay but it seems to be a little bit to old, is there any suggestions you guys can give me? i need it to make 1/48 airplane modifications and or spare parts-

Nautilus Hobbies makes a product they call the Vacu-Box

http://nautilusmodels.com/vac-u-box.htm

It comes in two sizes.   It comes broken down as flat shhets of basswood which are laser cut.  Punch it out and glue it together.   It uses you home oven to heat the plastic and your home vacuum cleaner to provide the suction.

I have the smaller one and it works well for smaller parts and say 1:72 canopies.   It takes some practice to get the plastic heated correctly.

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:39 AM

If you can get the Mattel Vac-u-form, get it...  If it's still working good, (Mine gave up the ghost years ago) it's great for 1/48th small parts, panels, engines, and especially canopies.  I'm bidding on one right now....

 

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Posted by doc-hm3 on Friday, July 18, 2008 7:08 PM

  Hello Mandrake, If you have a Radio Shack down there you can buy a perforated board approimately 4"x8", and a black plastic box the same size but about 5"tall. My buddy made a vacuform with these pieces from Radio Shack. You have to seal the perforated board on top of the box opening with silicone, oh and cut a hole the appropriate size for your vaccuum cleaner hose. Then make a wood frame 2 pieces so you can clamp your plastic between them, heat the plastic over your stove heating element, then when it starts to soften and sag put it over your master and turn on the vaccuum cleaner and Walah! you have made a new piece.

  I hope this helps Mandrake.

All gave some and some gave all.

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Posted by cardshark_14 on Friday, July 18, 2008 7:14 PM
This is how I built mine... It was very cheap and works great!
http://www.largescaleplanes.com/tips/RatoMarczak/jigs/vacuumform.html

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Alex
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Posted by SteveM on Friday, July 25, 2008 5:51 AM

Looking at a Mattel vacu form box... should I be terrified of a 46 year old electrical unit with a heating element?

Steve

 

Steve M.

On the workbench: ginormous Kharkov dio

 

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Posted by cardshark_14 on Friday, July 25, 2008 6:09 AM
You should be more terrified of the jealous hordes of modelers once they hear that you found one. Wink [;)]

Seriously, if it doesn't smell like burning, and there aren't any bare wires, you should be fine.

Cheers,
Alex
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Posted by SteveM on Friday, July 25, 2008 6:13 AM

I just had an image of shocking myself into a vegetable, just before the house burns down Shock [:O]

Thnx for the vote of confidence, I really want to try it out.

 

Steve M.

On the workbench: ginormous Kharkov dio

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Friday, July 25, 2008 8:06 AM

Alex... great link.

 

Steve... fear not the ancient technology. As stated as long as it's not damaged it will be fine.  I got mine on Ebay a few years ago... for allI know I may have bought the same one I had in 1962Shock [:O]... and it work great and it all original.

Someone makes upgrade parts for it but I can't rememebr the web site.  If anyone has that site info, can you please post it? 

Marc  

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Posted by mikepowers on Friday, July 25, 2008 11:10 AM
 SteveM wrote:

I just had an image of shocking myself into a vegetable

 

That is freakin funny.

I think I laughed for 5 minutes when I read that.

Mike 

 

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Posted by mikepowers on Friday, July 25, 2008 11:11 AM
Yes, I have a small brain.
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Posted by doc-hm3 on Saturday, July 26, 2008 8:14 AM
 I just checked e-bay and there are several up for bid going for Cheap!

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Sunday, August 31, 2008 11:56 PM

Took me over a month but I FINALLY won a Mattel Vac-U-Form on Ebay... I've been bidding on several over the weeks, but there were richer guys than me that wanted one worse fightin' me... But I hung in there...  Even has about 60 sheets of styrene, a few of which are clear... I'm finally gonna be able to have an unlimited supply aircraft canopies, and can get all the little do-dads I need like modern pro-mask carriers, ammo pouches, helmets, cowl-rings, panels, etc...   

Got it for 61 bucks, decidedly higher than my original one, but sweeettttt....

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Monday, September 1, 2008 1:27 AM
If one was to get one of these ancient monstrosities, what would one look for, specificly, in the auction? 

 

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Posted by ModelNerd on Monday, September 1, 2008 2:19 AM

 smeagol the vile wrote:
If one was to get one of these ancient monstrosities, what would one look for, specificly, in the auction? 

Try to find one that hasn't been through a war, or costs beyond what is affordable. More than $50 is probably overpriced, unless mint. Don't worry if it needs a little repair. Here's a guy who sells upgrade/rebuild parts:

http://www.gaugepods.com/vacuform/parts.htm

They're very simple machines, and quite easy to repair if needed. And they work great!

- Mark

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Monday, September 1, 2008 12:49 PM
Heh, I meant specificly for one of those Matel ones that everyone seems to love

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, September 1, 2008 1:16 PM

Look for the heating element to work, and the vacuum-pump.  The molds and such extras don't mean squat for modeling...They're just for making little toys and such...

 Nice to have some plastic sheets for it as well, especially the clear and metallic. (The metallic, you can take the metal finish off with oven cleaner and they're clear) Like was shown, you can get more plastic for it, or make your own if you have one sheet for making a drilling jig and some patience...

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Posted by EasyMike on Tuesday, September 2, 2008 3:15 PM

 SteveM wrote:
... should I be terrified of a 46 year old electrical unit with a heating element...

Why?  I'm willing to bet that old Mattel Vac-U-Form is made better than almost anything you can buy today.

 

Smile [:)]

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Posted by Cableguy9238 on Tuesday, September 2, 2008 11:00 PM

I just found a nice webpage for you.

Here are some plans for a very basic vac-u-form setup, great for giving you a quick idea of how this process works.  This particular article is VERY basic, but if you click on the related articles to the right, you will find more in-depth vac-u-form setups, all with instructions.  Also here are some nice articles on mold making and casting.

(As an added bonus, the looks your wife gives you as you play with saran wrap, an empty plastic jar, tape and popsicle sticks as you sit at the couch watching TV with her are PRICELESS.)

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http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Make-Your-Own-Prototypes-%3a-How-to-make-your/#comments

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Sunday, September 7, 2008 9:22 PM
What the..???Confused [%-)]

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Posted by Cableguy9238 on Monday, September 8, 2008 2:24 PM

Big Smile [:D]  Haha!  I said the same thing, but it works!  For me, it was a good, simple way to get a handle on how vac-u-forming works.

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Tuesday, September 9, 2008 9:07 AM
Got mine from UPS yesterday... Works great. Is able to make a new canpopy for Monogram's TBF and it's pretty good.  Experimented first using some  colored plastic, then made a clear one.   Bonus is the solid one will fit as well, making a perfect mask for the cockpit..

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