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Glues.
Posted by Rory T on Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:55 AM

Hello, Q-I just heard on a nother site that you could mix tamiya extra thin with a m e k type of glue like plast-i-weld or plastruct ??, is this true as it was stated it works better and faster than extra thin?. has anyone here tried this? if so what are your thoughts as well as what ratio do you us. Thank you in advance.

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  • From: Albany, NY
Posted by jeffpez on Thursday, September 13, 2018 5:36 AM

I don't know why you'd need something to work faster or better than Tamiya extra thin because it already works rather fast and bonds solidly. That's why it's so popular. In addition I'm not sure mixing various chemicals is a wise move. I wouldn't do it.

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  • From: Sunny So. Cal... The OC
Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, September 13, 2018 7:59 AM

Tamiya already beat you there... they also have a quick set formula that was recently released...

 

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Posted by EdGrune on Thursday, September 13, 2018 10:37 AM

A buddy at a recent IPMS meeting gave his opinion of that stuff.   It is too volitile and evaporates too quickly to be of any real benefit over regular Tamiya Thin Cement with the darker green top

YMMV

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  • From: Sunny So. Cal... The OC
Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, September 13, 2018 11:10 AM

EdGrune

A buddy at a recent IPMS meeting gave his opinion of that stuff.   It is too volitile and evaporates too quickly to be of any real benefit over regular Tamiya Thin Cement with the darker green top

YMMV

 

Sounds like Tenax. 

But it an option for the original poster over mixing his own from original Tamiya Extra Thin.

 

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  • From: Far Northern CA
Posted by mrmike on Thursday, September 13, 2018 4:12 PM

Rory you can mix Tamiya Extra Thin with MEK, but it won't really buy you anything. The differance in set time isn't noticable. I've done it when I've run low and the LHS is out of stock, but that's the only reason.

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Posted by Rory T on Friday, September 14, 2018 2:20 AM

Thank you to all who responded to this question about mixing glue, I was watching  Paul from ISM and he was stating he had this mix of glues and really liked it!. I tried to find more info on there site but was unable to, I have all of the Tamiya type glues on my bench including the new quick set but still really like the regular extra thin. Not sure why he would mix his glues as stated here there is really no need to do so? Again thanks for the input .

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Friday, September 14, 2018 10:11 AM

Hi ;

 I have tried them all . I lean toward Tamiys Thin and the orange bottle Thicker Formula . I still use Testors , but rarely . I feel this way though . Sure you maybe can find a way to make it set quicker . Why ? Are we now in a hurry to build those miniatures that badly  ?

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Friday, September 14, 2018 11:04 PM

Tanker - Builder

Hi ;

 I have tried them all . I lean toward Tamiys Thin and the orange bottle Thicker Formula . I still use Testors , but rarely . I feel this way though . Sure you maybe can find a way to make it set quicker . Why ? Are we now in a hurry to build those miniatures that badly  ?

 

Apparently the OP must be...

What I don't understand is why would anyone mix glue to begin with? What about the chemical reactions to plastic? Or even the potential harmful odors when mixing glues. I don't know. I would never even attempt to mix glues.

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Saturday, September 15, 2018 2:01 PM

Hello!

While I understand your concerns here, this one is no big deal. Any specific kind of this type of glue is a rather simple mix of two or three cheap industrial solvents like acetone, butanone (MEK), xylene, toluene and so on. Very similar to lacquer thinner, when you look at it. So the reason would for me be the price, or the necessity - if you run out of, say, Tamiya glue, the modelling shop is already closed, but the hardware store is still open, you can improvise and get yourself large amount of good glue cheaply. Or if you get a hold of it you can try to manipulate the drying time by varying the mix. Adding acetone or MEK makes the glue evaporate faster. My guess here is adding toluene makes the glue less agressive and makes it linger longer on the surface.

While all this stuff isn't recommended to be breathed in all the time, from what I read those substances aren't even classified as toxic. Like here's what wikipedia says on acetone:

Acetone is produced and disposed of in the human body through normal metabolic processes. It is normally present in blood and urine. People with diabetes produce it in larger amounts. Reproductive toxicity tests show that it has low potential to cause reproductive problems. Ketogenic diets that increase ketones (acetone, β-hydroxybutyric acid and acetoacetic acid) in the blood are used to counter epileptic attacks in infants and children who suffer from recalcitrant refractory epilepsy.

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Posted by Liegghio on Sunday, September 30, 2018 2:49 AM

I recently bought a bottle of that glue and love it, but now I‘m cudgeling my brain to dredge up an old memory. I’ve been building models since I was a kid in the ‘50’s. Smells are strong memory stimuli and when I got a whiff of this Tamiya glue it brought back the memory of an American modeling glue from back then that must have had basically the same formulation, based on it having the same nasty smell. My brother and I bought a bottle one time but we hated the smell, and as kids we didn’t know how to use it by holding the pieces together and letting the solvent wick in to make the weld. We went back to the usual tube gel glues like Revell.

I’m trying to remember what the brand was. I think maybe it was Pactra, but that‘s pretty tenuous. My brother still uses those tube glues 60 years later, but maybe I’ll have him take a sniff of the Tamiya and see if he remembers.

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