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Compressor's (Sparmax), any comments?
Posted by Milairjunkie on Thursday, October 9, 2008 7:04 PM

After getting back into the hobby about a year ago & building 4 or so kits to the point of starting to paint, the nights are now drawing in & I am back on the case. Its now time to get myself an airbrush & air source.

Last winter I had toyed with the idea of using CO2 as it's pretty cheap & even quieter, but on considering some of the safety aspects (in a house with a out-size rug rat), I have decided to go with a tanked compressor. There are two things that are concerning me, price & noise.

In an ideal world, I would get an Iwata Power Jet - but the prices in the UK are pretty ridic at about £325 ($555 USD) upwards, I cant really justify that & dont see that it is worth that sort of money. I have looked around for some time, & the only thing that seems of reasonable quality & price are the Revell Standard Class (£100) & Master Class (£160) compressors;

Revell Standard Class Compressor 39143Revell Master Class Compressor 39144

Have any of you had any dealings with these particular models? any coments?

 

My other concern is noise, the smaller one is rated at 55dB, the larger at 50dB. In a quiet house at night, in laymans terms, how loud is this? Again in laymans terms, how noticible would the 5dB difference between the two compressors be?

 

Thanks in advance. 

 

 

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Posted by Retired Gunpilot on Thursday, October 9, 2008 8:21 PM

Hello,

I know a little about decibel levels being in aviation all my life and I can give you a few references with decibel levels to help you get an understanding about how loud something may be.

Normal conversation with people about 3 to 5 feet from each other is usually consider to be in a range of 60 to 70 decibels. Someone whispering is around 30 decibels.

A lawn mower is normally around 109 decibels. Anything above 90 decibels is consider harmful to hearing in a prolong condition.

I think 50 to 55, while not a whisper is less than normal people talking to each other. I have a Power Jet Pro and I would think it is somewhere between whispering, 30 decibels and 50 which is less than normal conversation.

If your work area is not too terribly small you should find 50 to 55 not that bad especially if the compressor shuts off automatically when you are not spraying.

I forgot to mention there is a clear difference in detection of plus or minus 5 decibels. So you should be able to hear a clear difference between those two compressors you mentioned.

Hope this helps you out.

Charles

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Posted by keilau on Friday, October 10, 2008 7:00 AM

Many of the name brand airbrush compressors sold in the US are made by a factory in Taiwan, Sparmax, including the Iwata's. Their products have good reputation in quality. I am not familiar with the compressors sold at WonderLandModels. But they sure bear some resemblance to the Sparmax products.

The noise level seems to be pretty good. You can carry a normal conversation without raising your voice when the compressor is below 59 dbA in noise. You can find some subjective noise level information here.

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Saturday, October 11, 2008 4:10 PM

Yes, well spotted, they would appear to be Sparmax compressors.

Has anyone got any experience or comments on Sparmax? 

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Posted by keilau on Saturday, October 11, 2008 6:42 PM
 Milairjunkie wrote:

In an ideal world, I would get an Iwata Power Jet - but the prices in the UK are pretty ridic at about £325 ($555 USD) upwards, I cant really justify that & dont see that it is worth that sort of money. I have looked around for some time, & the only thing that seems of reasonable quality & price are the Revell Standard Class (£100) & Master Class (£160) compressors;

Revell Master Class Compressor 39144

My other concern is noise, the smaller one is rated at 55dB, the larger at 50dB. In a quiet house at night, in laymans terms, how loud is this? Again in laymans terms, how noticible would the 5dB difference between the two compressors be?

At 160 British Pounds, what are you waiting for!  I can't find a similar deal at the US and I usually expect compressor hardware price to be much cheaper due to the import and VAT taxes etc. in GB. This compressor has better spec than the Iwata Power Jet Pro at half the price.

http://www.wonderlandmodels.com/Master-Class-Compressor-productx365444.html

A while back, someone post at this forum that he was very happy with this compressor. Ok, I found the post by shroomy:

/forums/693485/ShowPost.aspx

 

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Posted by metroman on Monday, October 20, 2008 12:07 AM

I have a one gallon tank Sparmax 5000 and I love it!  Very reduced noise compared to the crap Paasche one previous.  Solid build and easy to use.  I got mine from Bear Air if that matters.

 

BW

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Monday, October 20, 2008 5:17 PM
Thanks for your advice guys, I think I will be going for the larger (quiter) of the two Revell compressors, along with an H&S Infinity airbrush, any comments on the airbrush also welcome.
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Posted by keilau on Monday, October 20, 2008 5:33 PM

 metroman wrote:
I have a one gallon tank Sparmax 5000 and I love it!  Very reduced noise compared to the crap Paasche one previous.  Solid build and easy to use.  I got mine from Bear Air if that matters.

Unfortunately, BearAir no longer carries the Sparmax brand compressor. It is quite a bit more expensive elsewhere.

I have the "crap Paasche" DA400 made by Sparmax. But I don't know what "crap" means unless you gave your model number. The Paasche DA-400 is a nice quiet, stable compressor with plenty of power to spare. You can find it in the compressor roundup in the July issue of FSM.

Get the Sparmax TC-5000 if it is in your budget range. It is a best value in its class when BearAir sold it for around $260.

 

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Posted by metroman on Monday, October 20, 2008 9:28 PM
D500 was what I had by Paasche.  Had two D500s that were louder than a train and pulsated.  First one got returned since it was new and was replaced with one that at least didn't sputter. 
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Posted by Bish on Saturday, December 20, 2008 2:23 PM
I was doing a search for Revell compressors as i am thinking of getting the Revell master class. I was going to get it from Hannants at £195. Then i saw your post and was woundering where you had seen it for 160.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by keilau on Saturday, December 20, 2008 5:16 PM

 Bish wrote:
I was doing a search for Revell compressors as i am thinking of getting the Revell master class. I was going to get it from Hannants at £195. Then i saw your post and was woundering where you had seen it for 160.

Check my 10/10 and 10/11 posts. The company in UK is Wonderland Models. Click on the links above. They are still there.

http://www.wonderlandmodels.com/products/revell-master-class-compressor/

 

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Sunday, December 21, 2008 10:17 AM

Bish, as keilau has said the Revell Masterclass compressor is available from Wonderland Models in Edinburgh @ £160. I had one mail ordered a couple of weeks ago & am more than happy with it.

As far as I can see it is identical to the Sparmax TC5000 & even has a couple of parts on it clearly branded sparmax. I have seen this compressor sold quite often in the £270>£290 bracket, so I would say this is a pretty good deal.

Also for anyone in the UK interested in a good deal on a high end airbrush, try; www.graphicsdirect.co.uk who have pretty good pricing on the Harder & Steenbeck Infinity & Evolution airbrushes. 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, December 22, 2008 8:14 AM
Thanks, just had a look, that was lucky. I was going to order one from hannants next week. Not you saved me £30, thats a few extra referance boks.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Monday, December 22, 2008 2:30 PM
Nae bother, call it an early Xmas present.
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