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A RECIPE FOR DISASTER (pictures are back) Completely finished on page 11

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 2:50 PM

REBAR!!!!

Nice Trick......hope you make the good and rusty on the finish????......

Remember to find Grandma's sewing machine foot

Rounds Complete!!

 

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Posted by treadwell on Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:07 PM

yeah baby.... takes time weldin' all that rebar !

   

 

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Posted by disastermaster on Thursday, March 24, 2011 11:55 PM


the doog


Steve,

That looks wicked-cool, and I probably missed this, but......what was all that rebar for on this tank? It seems to me that they would act as shot traps? Or was that the whole idea?



smiley-with-glasses39Hey Karl, 
  Always glad to hear from ya. Been WAY too busy today.

 The rebar as depicted here would be 1½" in diameter to give adequate space to jam in or attach clumps of limbs, branches or whatever for concealment by way of a layer of chickenwire or Sommerfield matting.

 Since this framework was only temporarily attached by being spot welded (instead of a solid line of weld) it most likely would offer only enough resistance to an incoming explosive round to pre-detonate it. All Allied tanks using this method of wire/camouflage used some kind of similar framework. This was a field modification (unlike german zimmeritt) without any official design pattern and the materials were often acquired from surrounding sources such as wrecked vehicles, scrap metal or salvage from the surrounding buildings/factories. Angle iron, flat stock and in one instance I came across, even steel cable (steel cable..... that was before I developed an interest in this, but I cannot find or verify the source for that now) was used for the framework. Anyway, considering the various materials used, rebar shouldn't be out of the question.  
 
 While this picture isn't painted yet, all this "chrome" does look pretty prominent in the pictures; however, I attached a test piece to an old panther and done a coat of paint on it ............  just blends right in.

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william carls


heya Steve  :  )   bro.. that rebar looks just like the real deal...(especially pic # 5).. don't know how ya figured grannys sewing machine foot could make rebar, but ya did..!  amazing... so now , with already 7 extra tons of armor, we gotta figure out what you are going to add or hang off the rebar.

I have pictures of Canadian tanks completely covered in extra tracks.. but they were fireflys, I believe... seen all covered in sandbags, and wood planks...

In fact, all my pics of 'E2s have nothing added armor wise.. only camo... trees,limbs and such....mmmm...

in the last line of your post it says 'we probably have it figured out' ..... boy do I feel dumb

nice progress dude !.......... got your P.M.  still working on some kind of reply that makes sense...

Yer pal,

dumb a$s




smiley-with-glasses12 Hello William.

THANK YOU!


The rebar was just a matter of an idle mind.....

 All your E2 pics were just a telling 'ya..... you just wouldn't listen. My   explanation to Karl above will surely clear this up for you.
   Don't feel dumb, you were just thinking armor.

  By the way, if you google Sommerfield matting you won't find an actual original picture, at least I didn't.
  I did find some material similar to it but it just looked too big for the scale, that's why I'm going with chickenwire..... I got that.

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iraqiwildman


Are you going to hang chicken wire off the rebar and put some camo it it?



Iraqiwildman

smiley-with-glasses37Good to see 'ya back here again.

You got it.....   well, mostly anyway.
 It'll be whitewashed but without any greenery........ late winter, not quite Spring.
  Like I had said before, a lot of the details here wouldn't be seen ......but it's because of the screening and not just covered in mud.
   Any camouflage would just cover up more, besides not being consistent with the faded whitewash.

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Chazzer

     Steve...WOW. I've been laid up in the hospital and sick for the past couple of weeks. When I finally got to the computer and into the armor forum I wasn't disappointed.  ..WOW. I picked up a Dragon M4A4 75mm for $19.00 on sale at my LHS (Will post on the trip to the hobbystore thread soon). I sure will use some of your tutorials and ideas. I can't wait to finish my current build and start the Sherman! Because of you, you keep me and I'm sure everyone else so into the hobby. I gotta say thank you man!! I can't wait fer the next post. It's great to be back.Yep ya created a monster!   The fight goes on and I'm winning!
 Don't let life get ya down!
Yer pal Scott(Chazzer) 


smiley-with-glasses28 Well Scott, what can I say man........  
 Hospital for two weeks???
  Must'a been pretty serious.
 
 Looks like 'ya got yer recovery plan well thought out though. Just make sure you do your current project properly
  since every bit of experience matters.
   Thank you for the compliments and encouragement.

Well, that's it for tonight guys.
smiley_to_sleep036

                Another busy day tomorrow.


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Posted by disastermaster on Friday, March 25, 2011 5:39 AM

wbill76

Agree with the others Steve, that re-bar looks awesome. Can't wait to see where you are going with this (I have no clue since it's Allied gear!). Beer

Good Morning  !!!!!!!!!!!

Hey Bill........

   Thank you. I can't sleep scared_smiley but I still have to get up shortly for another very eventful day, and that doesn't include what's left of my cleanup here at the house.......think_smiley_58.gif .

Lack of sleep will cause my eye black_eye_smileyto act up all day today........ invalid_smiley... sheesh.

    Below is a map to clue you in as to where I'm headed; actually it's more of a map showing how I'mprogressing ( in my obviously happy-smiley08  happy-smiley03 loopy way ) to finish this buildcry2


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Posted by Grem56 on Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:10 AM

Hi Steve, just passing through the armour forum when I saw your recipe for disaster. Excellent as always Toast I have no idea what you will be pulling out of your magicians hat but it is worth following.

cheers,

Julian Geeked

 

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Posted by disastermaster on Sunday, March 27, 2011 4:20 PM

wing_nut

JEEZ!  Now you're making rebar.  You are making the rest of us look bad.  But that looks real good.

Thanks Marc.

I'm not trying to make anyone look bad...... 

http://th827.photobucket.com/albums/zz192/denistephenson/smileys/smiley%20food%20and%20beverage/th_drink_laugh-1.gif ....I'm just trying to fit in 'an look as good as the rest of you.

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Posted by disastermaster on Monday, March 28, 2011 4:27 PM

redleg12

REBAR!!!!

Nice Trick......hope you make the good and rusty on the finish????......

Rounds Complete!!

Thank 'ya Mike,

No problem there.

Thumbs Up   More coming soon.......

"It's not the building..... it's the typing"

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Posted by disastermaster on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 3:16 PM

Grem56

Hi Steve, just passing through the armour forum when I saw your recipe for disaster. Excellent as always Toast I have no idea what you will be pulling out of your magicians hat but it is worth following.

cheers,

Julian Geeked

Hi Grem.

Ignoring You  I've been wondering where you had gotten to lately.....   haven't seen you do any tanks recently.

You're gonna like how this turns out.

 

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Posted by Bodge on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 3:21 PM

With all that posting Steve you will never get this one done LOLBig Smile

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Posted by disastermaster on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 12:08 AM

Bodge

With all that posting Steve you will never get this one done LOLBig Smile

Does seem to be a bit the "Never Ending Story" doesn't it.

Here's 'ya something for this morning..........

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_h906iWKl6Mg/Skaz1TnUXnI/AAAAAAAADD0/F6UTSaIky5w/s400/rooster+crow+2009005.jpg

 


  Chickenwire……….. that six sided mesh pattern.....

 Normally you can find about any pattern in a
fabric shop……….
       except this one, or at least I couldn't find it there...
        ........or maybe in a dress shop.
 
 patience has it’s rewards though.

Finally, I came across some in a dollar store during
the last Halloween season.
 They had these voo 
doo dolls with the
six sided black and white mesh sewed on for effect.
Luckily this was Just as I was beginning to think
that I would have to sacrifice
my idea for this bild
    .......since I couldn't find the exact pattern I wanted.
 
 Here’s a piece of mesh before I went to work on it. Now imagine a 1/35th scale crewmans hand holding that wire.... looks perfect to me.... ain't no chickens gonna infiltrate that.
 
 
on areas other than the barrel you'll have to glue it on with some gel superglue.


Now, remember this?
 
The tape rectangle at the top is the template for the barrel wrap...... no, not a chicken wrap.....
.....and yeah, the bottom one is for the sides and you'll
have to do one (or two pieces, your choice) for the front and also 2 more for the turret sides too.


 
 Pick a paintbrush handle that very closely matches
the barrel’s profile and wrap a piece of masking tape
around it…..  mark it where it contacts itself and then
pull it off the handle and put it on some cardboard (I used the handle 'cause I didn't want to risk jerkin' the primer off my barrel).

 Now, after spray painting the mesh with enamel flat
black (a couple of coats, or as needed). This is required
to give the fabric the resilience needed to be able to cut 
it accurately, otherwise it just fuzzes on the edges.

 place the Well dried mesh on top of that and carefully
press the razor blade down flatly and slide
-cut it
 
just "barely" a bit bigger than the pattern
  with a NEW + sharp single edge razor blade to get your shape.
 The paint, razor and the cardboard are the key elements to
making a clean cut.
 Don't try to cut it with scissors,
             you'll just get frustrated.
 
       …..should look like this,
        with a bit more trimming on that right top side
 
 Next, wrap it around the same brush handle and
 
sew
knitting_smiley5 it at about 4 separate points with
some invisible thread and a (visible) needle.
(i couldn't find my invisible one)
 
 
 Next, you’ll need a VERY fine piece (.003) of
wire (electical cord) to wrap around it.
Wind it two - maybe three times..... no more, doesn't have
to be
neat.........
  ....but Fairly tight.
You’ll barely be able to see it anyhow.
 
Slop on some Olive drab, let it dry and carefully
slide it off the brush handle, it should look
like this next pic…… you have to look HARD to barely see
that wire.... it doesn't matter, it should show a bit.
 
 
 Before I can install it and add the final wire wrap
 I’ll have to paint and finish the barrel first.
 
     So you know what that means………….   
                                     
                          
            

                                       
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Posted by deafpanzer on Thursday, March 31, 2011 12:40 AM

No way!  You can sew too?  I thought only girls can sew. Embarrassed Amazing work on the chicken wires... Bow Down

Andy

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Posted by Bodge on Thursday, March 31, 2011 11:24 AM

Well done Steve, I often add that to my models now, i think it looks great.Yes

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Posted by treadwell on Thursday, March 31, 2011 12:54 PM

Heya Steve  :  )     Real nice job on the chicken wire tutorial  !   The second to last picture where it is still a 

flat piece, it looks just perfect. the ' hex ' shape of each  'cell ' is very well maintained. Great job bro'  :  )

yer pal

bill

   

 

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Posted by Chazzer on Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:18 PM

      Hey Steve my pal, my mentorBow Down Wave, my crazy teacherCrazy, how do you come up with all these ideasSewing Machine? They are great and very helpful and funSo Funny It Hurts. I wonder what it would be like to be in your head   for just a minute  . Still, the build looks great   and the tutorial goes on.....Bathroom Knocker Can't wait for the next one! Thanks!!!Thanks









Yer Pal Chazzer(Scott)


 
  









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Posted by disastermaster on Saturday, April 2, 2011 12:02 AM

deafpanzer

No way!  You can sew too?  I thought only girls can sew. Embarrassed Amazing work on the chicken wires... Bow Down

http://th1030.photobucket.com/albums/y362/TzaCaNeL95/Smileys/th_longtongue.gif Yep, and I can also grow http://th178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/codocat/smileys/th_billthecat.gif mushrooms & grass right out of DAP (spackle) Wall Joint compound too..... http://th1030.photobucket.com/albums/y362/TzaCaNeL95/Smileys/th_15.gif     ..........   just wait.......you'll see.

  I'm a workin' on my next update right now http://th1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd501/YorkiesRule2/Smileys/th_handyemo2.gif

Annnd,

      Thank you.

Sweet dreams.......

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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, April 2, 2011 5:38 PM

The chicken wire really looks convincing, looking forward to seeing how you tackle the hull.

Keep well Steve and hope to see more progress soon.

Terry.

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Posted by the doog on Saturday, April 2, 2011 7:42 PM

Cool beans, Steve. Thanks for the explanation.]

I love the thought and planning going into this one!

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Posted by RBaer on Sunday, April 3, 2011 10:08 AM

Nifty!

Apprentice rivet counter.

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Posted by disastermaster on Monday, April 4, 2011 1:17 AM

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Bodge

Well done Steve, I often add that to my models now, i think it looks great.


Thank you Andy.
  I've been waiting for the perfect opportunity to use this particular item.


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william carls

Heya Steve  :  )     Real nice job on the chicken wire tutorial! The second to last picture where it is still a flat piece, it looks just perfect. The ' hex ' shape of each  'cell ' is very well maintained. Great job bro'  :  )
yer pal
bill

Thank 'ya pardner ....  (he, he, he aka "Gabby")!
I gave it a lot of thought over a long period of time before going ahead with it.

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Chazzer

      Hey Steve my pal, my mentor, my crazy teacher, how do you come up with all these ideas? They are great and very helpful and fun. I wonder what it would be like to be in your head   for just a minute. Still, the build looks great and the tutorial goes on..... Can't wait for the next one! Thanks!!!

Yer Pal Chazzer(Scott)


 Well Scott, 'ya have to be quick to notice da small things in life..... the details....  and that's what modelers do.
 

 Now as far as being in my head, well; that could be a scary place for you. In fact, 32 years ago this past summer I actually had several people in my head......for more than a minute too.

 How 'bout my head and a team of http://th803.photobucket.com/albums/yy315/untamedtresses/uTT%20Smileys/th_doc.gif http://th803.photobucket.com/albums/yy315/untamedtresses/uTT%20Smileys/th_doc.gif http://th803.photobucket.com/albums/yy315/untamedtresses/uTT%20Smileys/th_doc.gifseveral brain surgeons and understudies in an operating room for about six hours?

 It must'a got pretty crowded in my noggin with all them thumbs, fingers & scalpels whippin' around in there.....

 They were busy a gouging out a tumor the size of a tennis ball.
 

 Apparently it was successful.........       I think.

 Sometimes I think they took out the brain and left the tumor.

Thank you Chazzer. It's good to see such youthful enthusiasm about the hobby.

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Posted by disastermaster on Monday, April 4, 2011 7:40 PM

terry35

The chicken wire really looks convincing, looking forward to seeing how you tackle the hull.

Keep well Steve and hope to see more progress soon.

Terry.

Thanks Terry,

I'll actually be painting the hull and turret nearly complete

 http://l.thumbs.canstockphoto.com/canstock2686428.jpg .........before I begin to attach the wire.

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, April 4, 2011 7:52 PM

You are always good for a surpise here and there Steve and your attention to the details on this one sets a high bar. Looking forward to the next update. Beer

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, April 4, 2011 9:51 PM

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by Chazzer on Wednesday, April 6, 2011 9:09 PM

       Youthful?!!Crawling BabyThanks buddy.It's been two days since you last postedWaiting.It's not like you have anything else to do...right?Cleaning The ToiletThe build looks great. Glad to hear about yer brain transplant!!Brain! Was it an abbey-normal brainLumpy? Just kidding. Can't wait for more. You ARE the master!!  





Yer pal Chazzer  






ChazzerBlack Eye

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Posted by disastermaster on Wednesday, April 6, 2011 11:36 PM

the doog

Cool beans, Steve. Thanks for the explanation.]

I love the thought and planning going into this one!

Doog!

Sure thang.......

Here's the look I was going for on the rebar......  

http://www.bennys.bz/images/uploads/rebar.gif

Thank you Karl.


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RBaer

Nifty!

...... and Shifty too.

 I have a lot more yet to show 'ya ......

http://th38.photobucket.com/albums/e121/OSOKILL/Smileys/th_cavitysearch.gifan they still ain't found my mushrooms .... yet.

Thank 'ya sir.     

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Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, April 7, 2011 7:56 AM

I almost missed the chicken wire.  I am still amazed at the idea that some modelers come up with.  Looks great.  Now help me come up with an idea to make barb wire in 144th.Whistling

Marc  

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Posted by disastermaster on Thursday, April 7, 2011 9:15 PM

wbill76

You are always good for a surprise here and there Steve and your attention to the details on this one sets a high bar. Looking forward to the next update. Beer

 Shoot, I was trying for a high "rebar".

Like I keep saying, "I'm a workin' on it".......  Whiteboard

And yeah I know it's getting old to hear that, but I'm doing this a bit at a time, when I have the time (on a word doc) an gettin' it all in the correct context.

I don't want me going postal Student Head Explodes like the last time it happened.

.......all because of an internet glitch where I lost everything I had typed.  

 

   But be warned Bill,

    my next update will definitely leave all of you seeing "RED".

                    Tank'ya.

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redleg12

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Rounds Complete!!

Hey Mike, what can I say....... GossipI have those episodes too.

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Posted by K-dawg on Thursday, April 7, 2011 10:24 PM

Somewhere between all the emocations and smileys there seems to be a good model being built... Good luck with your E2! That Tasca kit sitting over on my shelf sure does look like a lot less work but probably not as gratifying! :)

Kenneth Childres, Central Arkansas Scale Modelers

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Posted by disastermaster on Friday, April 8, 2011 11:54 PM

Chazzer

       Youthful?!!http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/15/15_5_10.gif

Thanks buddy.It's been two days since you last postedhttp://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_6_109v.gif.It's not like you have anything else to do...right?The build looks great. Glad to hear about yer brain transplant!!! Was it an abbey-normal brainhttp://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_1_118v.gif? Just kidding. Can't wait for more. You ARE the master!!   

Yer pal Chazzer  

Abby normal eh?

          http://th695.photobucket.com/albums/vv314/In_Need_Of_This/smileys%20smileys%20smileys/th_puppeye1.gif

Looks like I'm not the only one here familiar with http://th13.photobucket.com/albums/a264/buttmuffin/th_marty_feldman.jpg

One of my most favorite movies too.

Thanks Scott. I'll have an update later this weekend.

NEXT.....

wing_nut

I almost missed the chicken wire.  I am still amazed at the ideas that some modelers come up with.  Looks great.  Now help me come up with an idea to make barb wire in 144th.Whistling

Thank you Marc.

 As far as the 1/144th barbed wire goes..........dunno, maybe some of the invisible thread between some posts; you wouldn't see the barbs anyway in that scale.

http://th103.photobucket.com/albums/m155/brianc712/th_smiley_030.gif ..... or just find yourself a LARGE penny to put with it in the picture.

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Saturday, April 9, 2011 3:32 PM

disastermaster

http://th103.photobucket.com/albums/m155/brianc712/th_smiley_030.gif ..... or just find yourself a LARGE penny to put with it in the picture.

 

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Hey!! I got one of those...

Marc  

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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, April 9, 2011 5:50 PM

Bout time that penny was revealed for all it is....cool.

Thanks guys for adding a great bit of humor to a dull saturday evening.

Terry.

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