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1/72nd B-17F
Posted by Bish on Monday, October 24, 2011 4:45 PM

This is Academys 1/72nd B-17F. t was built firstly for my own GB, the Mighty 8th GB. But was also enetred into the Too many Props GB. It was also supposed to have been in the Weathering GB. But do to a number of issues with the build, that slipped to one side.

The build was started at the end of May. But due to a number of issue has only just been finished. At one point it was going to be put in a box and put back on the shelf. This was due to me realiseing the decals i had did not represent a real aircraft. This was saved by littleJ who found a set of supercale decals for an aircraft of the 96th BG. The aircraft depicted is ole puss II, which flew with the 96th from July 43 to April 44.

I added a complete Eduard Big Ed PE set. It wa sthen painted with Xtracolour enamels and after the decals i use pro modeller wash for the panel lines and weathering.

I added the field fitted forward gun position but cutting a hole in the clear nose piece and added framing with lead foil, then use the foil to make the gun mount. The support framing is styrene rod. But i am not 100% happy with the result, the clear plastic is to thick for starters. And the framing is a little to big. So i plan to replace this at a later date with a thinner vac form nose, this should be easier to modify using the lessons from this one. The canvas covers for the gun barrels was tissue paper painted OD

I plan on a dio showing the aircraft about to be loaded with bombs. And so the bomb bay has been left open. The bomb bay its all eduard PE

Off the top of my head, and without going through all the posts on this thread and others i would like to thank Stikpusher, B17pilot, B17, checkmateking and littleJ for all their help. And if i have forgotten anyone, my apologies. and thanks to everyone else for the kinds words, advice and encouragement during this build.

And now, for a touch of history.

This kit is the second in a personal project of mine, to build 72nd aircraft from all of the 37 military airfields in the County of Norfolk. This is was more airfields than any other county in the UK.

 The aircraft depicted here is B-17F-85-BO 42-30073. Originally issued to the 384th BG, on the 6th of July 193 it was transferred to the 96th BG in a straight swap with 42-5883. 883 had been named ‘OLE PUSS’, and so 073 was named ‘OLE PUSS II’, though the nose art only reads ‘OLE PUSS’. The Nose Art was painted on by Sgt Johnnie White. During 073’s time with the 96th, she carried out 27 missions and claimed to have shot down 12 enemy fighters. Her career came to an end on the 17th April 1944 when she was forced to belly land at East Wretham, home of the 359th FG, just a few miles down the A-11 from Snetterton.

 

The 96th BG was activated in July 1942, commanded by Lt. Colonel Archie Old Jr. After many months of training in the USA, the Group deployed to the UK, their first base being at Grafton Underwood, where the Air Echelons arrived on the 14th April. In May, the Group moved to Andrews Field airfield, from where their first mission was carried out on the 14th of May, with 21 aircraft being sent out, and all 21 coming back. Then in June 1943, the 96th moved yet again, this time to Snetterton in South Norfolk. It would spend the rest of the war here, as part of the 45th Wing, 3rd bombardment Division. The Group would spend the next 2 and a half years there, carrying out its last mission, its 320th, on April 21st 1945 and they left Snetterton in December and was inactivated once back home.

On the 29th may 1947 it was re Activated as the 96th BG (Very heavy) and was inactivated again on 27th June 1949.

 

 

The village of Snetterton is in South Norfolk. It lays just to the North of the A-11, one of the major roads into the county that runs from Norwich, to the north, and heads South towards London. The airfield opened in May 1943. It lay right next to the A-11, to the South of the road. On my first visit to Snetterton back in the late 70’s early 80’s, the road was still a single carrage way. We went in through what was the old gate, and you could see how close to the road the runways were and some of the old buildings were still there. The road has since be turned into a dual carrage way and many of there old features have gone.

In June 1943, Snetterton became home to both the B-26’s of the 386th BG and the B-17’s on the 96th. The 386th only stayed a few months, moving out in Sept. The 96th was one of only 3 B-17 BG’s based in Norfolk. Most B-17’s were stationed in Cambridgeshire and Suffolk. Snetterton, along with the other 2 Norfolk B-17 bases, Thorpe Abbots (100th BG) & Deopham Green (452nd BG) are all in South Norfolk close to the border with Suffolk. When the 96th left for home in Dec 1945, the base was used by the RAF until it was closed in Nov 1948. It then fell into disuse until it was bought in 1952. The runways and perimeter were seen as ideal for motor racing. The first bike race took place in 1953 and the first car race in 1954. Today it is still used for motor racing, both national and international. It is also used for a massive market every Sunday. Recently the old airfield, now known as Snetterton park, has be transformed with a Garden Village and SP models, who have a sign on the A-11 claiming to be the worlds largest toy shop. True or not I don’t know, but it defiantly is very big, the model section is at the back and took me a good 5 mins to get to walking through all the other toys and hobby sections.

 But, despite all the modernisation, Snetterton, and in deed Norfolk and the rest of East Anglia, has never forgotten the friendly invasion by young men with strange accents and strange habits.

This has to be one of the most impressive war memorials i have yet seen.

  

Thanks for looking, and thanks to all the great people on this forum without whom i would never have finished this.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, October 24, 2011 4:57 PM

Yes Bish, a beautiful build and excellent accompaniment with the story of the aircraft, unit, and airfield along with photos of the memorial. Good stuffBow Down

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

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N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Bish on Monday, October 24, 2011 5:02 PM

Thanks stik, and although you can't see it in the pics, much of the oxygen system is in there and in the right place thanks to your schematic.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, October 24, 2011 5:11 PM

You did all the work my friend. I just found a bit of information for youWink I can imagine one can see the O2 tanks from various views up close on the finished build if you look from the correct angle. It is an impressive build.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Monday, October 24, 2011 5:38 PM

Excellent and outstanding write-up, Bish.  Your model as well as your prose make a compelling and meaningful tribute to the fliers of the 8th AAF, and the 96th BG in particular.

You did a magnificent job with that nose gun position and the framework.

Good show!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Stage_Left on Monday, October 24, 2011 7:06 PM

Outstanding stuff Bish- both the build and the history. Very interesting and well done Yes

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Posted by bsyamato on Tuesday, October 25, 2011 4:54 AM

Great reaserch about the history and magnific fortress Bow Down

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, October 28, 2011 2:41 AM

ACHTUNG, ACHTUNG! BOMBER UM 12 UHR!

Great little model, Bish... I'm a "Blacksmith" with 1/48th, and not a 1/72 "Jeweler"Wink, but I appreciate good work when I see it..  At any rate, you got it "blown up" here to about 1/32 scale on the screen... The models' nose-glazing is fine from a "normal" viewing-distance... Vacuforming another piece with thinner material is about the only other possible way to accomplish one of those.. Really, really good work man...

Curious though, is the nose-mount a single or  twin fifty cal. flex-mount?  Here's a shot (albeit not a good one) of the twin-fifty flex-mount on an F-model.

 Good write-up on the group too.. Would have liked more on the particular aircraft though..

This kit is the second in a personal project of mine, to build 72nd aircraft from all of the 37 military airfields in the County of Norfolk. This is was more airfields than any other county in the UK.

Wow.. Ambitious project!

Does that include all the various squadron's "hacks" too? 

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Posted by Bish on Friday, October 28, 2011 3:11 AM

Thanks Hans. Ye, that close up of the nose does make the gun mount look alot deeper than it is. Squadron do vac form noses for the 17F, so i am going to get a couple of those and re-do it before i do the dio. As for as i could tell, its a single mount. Theres a photo of the nose art of ole puss and you can just make out the gun position and the rear end of one gun. If it wasn't for that, i wouldn't have known.

Ye, i agree, more on the aircraft would have been nice. Unfortunatly, info on the 96th's aircraft is a bit thin on the ground. Even though i have now done this airfield, i would still like to reda up on it, so theres a book or two i am going to keep my eyes open for. I also plan on a visit to the 96th museum at some point, maybe i can find something out there. And the decals were a last minute addition due to me finding out my priginal ones did not represent a real aircrfat. I have been doing research on the airfields for the last couple of years, and of course the fact that i grew up surrounded by them means i already have some knowledge of them.

Yep, it is a bit ambitious. I currently have 19 kits, 2 of which are built. I have 3 more lined up. My aim initially is to build at least one aircrfat from each airfield. I would like as much variety as possable and have aircraft going from WW2 to the modern day. It is to be heavy in B-24's, a lot of bases here where only open for a couple of years and only had one type that used it. I have 6 B-24's and will have to have 4 more. It is a long term project, and if i get all 37 done before i die i will be happy.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, October 28, 2011 3:36 AM

I recall seeing a map, way back in the day, of US airbases in England, but for the life of me, I can't remember where I saw it.. Do you have anything in your library, or knowlege of where to look for that sort of thing?

All I got on-hand is the map in the computer game, "European Air War", and I dunno how accurate that is..  As you know, my Dad and three of my uncles flew outta the UK during the War.. I have a plan for a map/background of their respective squadron locations in relation to one another as a backdrop for the aircraft dioramas...  Dad's were:

Nuthampstead 16 September 1943 to 16 April 1944
Wormingford 16 April 1944 to 21 July 1945
My Uncle Bud was at Molesworth (303 BG AAF Station 107), but I'm unsure of the dates, and although I know he was still there at the War's end, I don't know if they started the War there or not...
Right now, I have no idea where Ronnie and Stan were at or their Groups...  The rest of Dad's brothers that were in WW2 were in the PTO..

 

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Posted by Bish on Friday, October 28, 2011 6:43 AM

Off the top of my head, now. My libary on this subject is rather small at the moment. I have a map of all the airfields in Norfolk, US and British. I will see what i can dig up.

You raised an interesting pint in your previous post earlier that i had not considered, hacks. If any of these G's used difefrent aircrfat types for this role, that may give me more option for variety, especially for the B-24 BG's. I will ahve to do some digging on this and see what i can find.

When you mention your uncle and you say your not sure if they started the war at Molesworth, i am not sure if you mean your uncle or the 303rd. But assuming its the latter, the 303rd was only based their and arrived in Sept 42, so that would have made it one of the first B-17 groups to arrive in the UK. They left in june 45. Not sure if you have seen this, but they have a rather nice memorial.

http://mighty8thaf.preller.us/php/1Unit.php?Unitkey=303

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 10:21 AM

[quote]

When you mention your uncle and you say your not sure if they started the war at Molesworth, i am not sure if you mean your uncle or the 303rd. But assuming its the latter, the 303rd was only based their and arrived in Sept 42, so that would have made it one of the first B-17 groups to arrive in the UK. They left in june 45. Not sure if you have seen this, but they have a rather nice memorial.

http://mighty8thaf.preller.us/php/1Unit.php?Unitkey=303] [/quote]

No, I hadn't seen that!   Yeah, I was refering when & where the 303rd started the war.. Thanks, Bish... 

 

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Posted by Hercmech on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 10:31 AM

Nice model there Bish!

Good story about the histoy of the 8th in East Anglia too. Some really cool places to visit. I really liked Thorpe Abbots...had a real strange quiet feel to the place.


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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 2:14 PM

Glad you liked it Hans.

Thanks Herc. I haven't been to thrope Abbots yet. I have seen the sign for the museum, its one of the airfields that's not to far from me, so i really must get there next year. I have an Academy 17G with a set of AM decals for the 100th, but that won't be for a while yet.

You can't get away from that history there even if you wanted to. But it suits me down to the ground.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by richs26 on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 3:00 PM

When you mention your uncle and you say your not sure if they started the war at Molesworth, i am not sure if you mean your uncle or the 303rd. But assuming its the latter, the 303rd was only based their and arrived in Sept 42, so that would have made it one of the first B-17 groups to arrive in the UK. They left in june 45. Not sure if you have seen this, but they have a rather nice memorial.

http://mighty8thaf.preller.us/php/1Unit.php?Unitkey=303]

No, I hadn't seen that!   Yeah, I was refering when & where the 303rd started the war.. Thanks, Bish... 

Hans, here is the definitive word on the 303rd BG:  303rdbg.com

It has a listing of all members of the 303rd, their missions, and support roles with lots of photos.  My uncle was a flight engineer of the 427th BS from April 43 to his 20th mission, then 5 missions with the 482nd BTG, Pathfinders, with the last on 4 Jan 44.  He was on the 2nd Schweinfurt mission.  There are two books available on the 303rd, "Half a Wing, Three Engines, and a Prayer" by Brian D. O'Neill, and an Osprey book by the same author. 

WIP:  Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 73rd BS B-26, 40-1408, torpedo bomber attempt on Ryujo

Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 22nd BG B-26, 7-Mile Drome, New Guinea

Minicraft 1/72 B-24D as LB-30, AL-613, "Tough Boy", 28th Composite Group

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Posted by Hercmech on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 3:14 PM

Molesworth had the best chow hall I have ever eaten in. And the DRMO was pretty cool too.


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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, November 2, 2011 3:21 PM

When your in the British Army, any American 'chow hall' ,as you say, is the best you have ever eaten in.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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